Series 3 Bought an old chassis and now got a letter from DVLA

The Chassis on my series 3 isnt that great and I bought another chassis with V5 etc.
The chassis itself is OK and has got the ID plate etc (not an ID plate and bag of rust) , Now hers the thing - I wouldnt buy a chassis without an ID as there is a risk of it being stolen.
But after sending off for the reg doc, DVLA want photos of the complete vehicle and serial numbers for the engine, transmission, axles etc.

Anyone else had this ? it is not built up yet - just pained the bare chassis and it's not that its going to be going anywhere for a while, but theres not much point me doing anything to it if it wont be legal.

Sorry if it cost you much but good. An id plate means nothing without the v5 and I'm glad the dvla seem to be doing their job.
If you want to do legally, get a new chassis.

SpringDon said:

Sorry if it cost you much but good. An id plate means nothing without the v5 and I'm glad the dvla seem to be doing their job.
If you want to do legally, get a new chassis.

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So if the OP had bought a new chassis would he then have transferred his original number and plate onto the new chassis? And that would be legal? In which case [for sake of argument] his replacement chassis is "new" SO, if he now restores the "new" chassis, maybe change front right leg or just stamps his old number onto it, sandblasts and paints, then builds up using original chassis plate he has simply replaced his chassis just the same as if he'd bought a new one? Then, to be certain he takes his old chassis and the plates [vin and number] from the "new"to his nearest scrappy, gets a cert of destruction all legal I would have thought............................ basically he has replaced his chassis..................................

Surely it's not illegal to sell or buy a used chassis in good faith, like any other used part?

SpringDon said:

Sorry if it cost you much but good. An id plate means nothing without the v5 and I'm glad the dvla seem to be doing their job.
If you want to do legally, get a new chassis.

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Op says it has the V5

Yes it is identity belongs with chassis.

Yes so they could swap parts over and reg it under the number on the "new" chassis

So a brand new chassis comes with a new number?

waldamar said:

So a brand new chassis comes with a new number?

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What if you fit a new chassis and don't stamp it?
I'm just asking for a friend, like...

Many years ago I knew of a number plate dealer who had one, old faithful series one - in good, tatty but mot pass condition - every time he got another rotten series 1 with a saleable reg number........................ plates onto old faithful, off to friendly mot man and another reg to sell - non transferable replacement plate then onto rot box and repeat.........................................

Jam1 said:

Op says it has the V5

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Not how I read it.
There's no such thing as a good used chassis since the chassis is effectively the vehicle. You could get a chassis with v5 and build up the vehicle again but this would fail the points system (if it was checked). But this also opens the door for a small bag of rust with a v5 "restorations".

Stamping a new chassis is irrelevant as proof of purchase/fitting is the evidence required.

I don't see the problem if the chassis is a SIII, won't fail on points if the axles/brakes/gearbox etc are the right age because it's not a chassis replacement it's an everything else replacement. Needs registering as the vehicle the chassis belongs to.

blue beasty said:

I don't see the problem if the chassis is a SIII, won't fail on points if the axles/brakes/gearbox etc are the right age because it's not a chassis replacement it's an everything else replacement. Needs registering as the vehicle the chassis belongs to.

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I agree.............. unless OP is hoping to come out of this with two V5's?............................ then that may be a bit dodgy.........................

blue beasty said:

... it's not a chassis replacement it's an everything else replacement...

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Exactly, it's building up the replacement chassis into a vehicle not replacing the one on the existing vehicle.

And I do apologise.for some reason (senility) I didn't think the used chassis had a v5. Think I read Id as just a vin plate.

Interesting.

I'm just about to sell the Disco chassis and body, minus engine, axles and gearboxes and sundries that I've used or already sold ... Anything I need to worry about? I'm making sure I get the V5 signed and will send it off. Does it matter that it's sans engine etc? I can't see any reason why it's a problem as I've had the Disco many years.

Actually it does have axles on, but not standard, broken Landy 90 ones just so it can be wheeled, but without steering, braking or even trailing arms!!

This is getting too complicated for me! Here's another scenario....................... OP rebuilds his original chassis, everything is replaced with new metal, piece by piece EXCEPT his front right chassis leg with the number - does he have to inform DVLA? I guess not...................... So in order to save time and effort instead of building it up piece by piece he does it in one go and repairs his chassis by welding a replacement chassis to his original front right leg - now he DOES have to inform DVLA?

If you replace the chassis, it is wise not to inform the dvla. Just keep the proof of purchase.
As for replacing everything except the 2 inches that have the chassis number on....well what do you think?
If I cut out the chassis number from vehicle a and insert into the chassis of vehicle b, does that make vehicle b into vehicle a......obviously not.

The rules don't easily apply to vehicles with proper chassis' with is why there's such big grey areas. Even a new replacement chassis is bending rules slightly.

If a vehicle has matching chassis number, VIN plate and V5 and looks the right age for the registration nobody is going to ask questions

If using a 2nd hand chassis you really need the matching VIN plate, V5 and build it up with enough parts to match the chassis and it becomes the vehicle the chassis was originally registered as.

If your VIN plate doesn't match the chassis number you need to have a VIC inspection and be prepared to answer a lot of questions.

A new ID can be issued but it involves lots of jumping through hoops. It's intended for kit cars and radically altered vehicles.

SpringDon said:

If I cut out the chassis number from vehicle a and insert into the chassis of vehicle b, does that make vehicle b into vehicle a......obviously not.

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Not the issue here though, the op wants to replace his chassis with the one from vehicle b - if he keeps vehicle a's identity and scraps vehicle b's identity he has...................... simply replaced his chassis. Exactly the same as if he had bought a new replacement chassis - no? Seems this "can't use a 2nd hand chassis" is very sweet for the new chassis manufacturer.

I would expect anyone building a new chassis would need to certify it was built to original design/ strength.
Lots of internal braces on early series 1 chassis not sure if the same on series 2/ 3.