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Had an awesome day out to Billing today; took the FL1 on the offroad course, didnt miss any of the challenges, the doors didnt fall off when it got wet:





Only mod to standard spec is a set of Grabber AT boots which performed well, suprisingly well to be honest, managed to get through some areas with less fuss than the bigger boys in their 'tratters which was nice



Now the question comes from when I got home, I took a look under the bonnet & found what looks like a fuel filter (B) only connected at 1 end to some rubber tube, there is a bent piece of solid pipe also disconnected (A). There seems to be slight vacuum on both ends, should these be attached?



Thanks for the advice as usual!

think that's fine mate. that's the boost solenoid vent filter. Ours is hanging off too, but there should be a clip which I *think* clips the vent filter hose (hose connected to B) to that bent piece of tubing (a). Not sure if it's supposed to be open or not, but ours always has been...

P.S. that filter should be changed annually. A lot of garages don't do it (along with crankcase breather).

P.P.S. Well done for putting a good fight in there for us Freebie drivers!

as above its supposed to be exposed/open to the atmosphere. changed mine yesterday funny enough.

Yes all normal, the metal pipe is the breather pipe for the IRD.

HTH

Thanks for the replies guys, makes me feel much happier. Was wondering how the engine was running when it looked like the fuel filter was disconnected!

fuel filter..........oooo wait til you get to change that!!!!!!!!

No thanks, I'll pay the local LR dealer to do it; a full book of main dealer stamps always looks good for when I grow up & buy a real 'tratter

Hi

Fuel filter is easy to change, if yours is in the engine bay.

GlowingBulb said:

No thanks, I'll pay the local LR dealer to do it; a full book of main dealer stamps always looks good for when I grow up & buy a real 'tratter

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Mmmm - I thought like that - once - long ago now.

Changed days - a book full of main dealer stamps only tells other dealers you're gullable and have a fat wallet.

Singvogel.

also in my experience with a full book of dealer stamps, the fuel filter that I removed, and according to the book, LR dealerships had also replaced, mine still had a label showing a date Aug 2003. on my 2003 freelander. maybe coincidence that the part was on the shelf since then, but generally looking at the filter its never been changed. (the rear wheel arch one, easy enough but can be ceased in the carrier)

Singvogel said:

Mmmm - I thought like that - once - long ago now.

Changed days - a book full of main dealer stamps only tells other dealers you're gullable and have a fat wallet.

Singvogel.

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Mine does decent coffee and nice biscuits no idea about servicing I do that myself

That waters very close to the air intake for the engine. Anyone viewing this thread and thinking of doing the same, should be careful. Water over the bonnet is good for a pic but again it's above the air intake.

Nice to see someone else taking their Freelander oft road.

Wot ^^^^^ he said.

Well done fer gettin it durty but that water is a suicidal risk......NOT because it's a freelander but because it's not been prepared for it.

Instant dead engine territory

But you see thread after thread on here of people asking about snorkels and everyone says its unnecessary, a stupid idea, the electrics will stop it first, they float, blah blah blah. I for one plan to make myself one, but all the freelander bashers are giving bad advice to people that may not know better. It ****es me off! My first time round I didn't go thru, it was only after watching others do it and talking to the marshals that I decided to go thru on the second trip! Mine has a two inch lift and 225/75/16 tyres, I was amazed that a standard one actually got thru!!! I was careful to go at the correct speed keep a small bow wave and all that, but I'm probably in the minority cos I didn't go splashing in!

Water is a big risk. If it gets in yer engine then you’ll suffer hydraulic lock. Ending with a deaded engine.

Snorkels are ok, but not the ultimate fix. The snorkel protects the engines ability to breath by stopping water from getting in. The water still floods round the engine and wets everything. What’s more of a problem here is what’s in the water. Sediment like sand, clay and mud in the water gets into bearings and seals. I took out my air con compressor clutch bearing, front timing belt pulley, and ird drive shaft seal due to this. It’s easily done. Also gets in the brakes too. When changing my timing belts I realised muddy water had spun round the belt inside the covers.

The above applies to all vehicles. Not just Freelanders.

Another significant risk of water is not being able to see the bottom. You don’t know how deep it is and if the bottom will allow you to have grip. I’ve been fooled by marshals telling me it’s not deep. Water up the bonnet being the result. If you loose momentum and traction then your vehicle will fill up with water. Not nice if it’s your daily runner. Flowing water is an even bigger risk. 1 cubic meter of water weighs 1 ton. So imagine the cross section of water pushing against a vehicle when it crosses flowing water like a river. Rear end started sliding sideways and he was very lucky to get across. The issue of traction is even more important when you consider the amount of water you may be pushing forwards as you leave the water. Some loose their lives in flood water as peeps seem addicted to it. Whenever they see it, they just want to get in it.

I follow the advice from a tratterer with regards to water now. He keeps out of water due to the damage it’s done to his vehicles. Bearings and brakes etc. I keep out of it too now. Axle deep and that’s it. I drive round it at shows too.

edit: found the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8XVEyD9UCA

Tis true. I've done three alternators due to gloopy mud. One caught fire! Also a starter and front main oil seal! That's why I steered well clear of the mud run! It's also buggered me rear shoes. Water isn't so bad from a damage point of view. Assuming it doesn't get in your engine or electrics, axles, gear box, ird, interior or you don't just get swept away!
Mines a play thing so not the end of the world if I break something. Although I'd be ****ed if it was the engine of ird ££££
It depends what the car is for! If it was my daily driver I wouldn't have done any of the water to be honest! Cos it's a big gamble especially on a standard one!

And I wouldn't do it if I didn't know how deep it was! Billing was a relatively controlled environment. Floods and rivers are a very different ball game. I steer clear of them having known people being swept away in a local ford! My Disco doesn't even go green laning cos I rely on it for work. I wouldn't have taken that around at billing cos I can't afford it to be off the road even though technically its more capable than the freelander!

Hippo said:

Water over the bonnet is good for a pic but again it's above the air intake.

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Very true, the water I blasted into the water "splash", I'd seen a few tratters go through & gauged the depth, just wanted to give the snapper a manly photo.

The actual water run scared the bejesus out of me, was a very tense 30 - 45 secs, kept on repeating to myself the sage advice about the bow wave but when it all started to get light & floaty my arse puckered up tight enough to form a diamond

Only problem with the 2nd time round was the missus wanted to do it, I doubt I'll be able to get my nail marks out of the passenger grab handle I was gripping that hard.

As for mud, **** or silt getting everywhere; attacked the underside with the pressure washer today, there must have been 1/2" of mud & sand on the drive by the time I'd finished.

GlowingBulb said:

Very true, the water I blasted into the water "splash", I'd seen a few tratters go through & gauged the depth, just wanted to give the snapper a manly photo.

The actual water run scared the bejesus out of me, was a very tense 30 - 45 secs, kept on repeating to myself the sage advice about the bow wave but when it all started to get light & floaty my arse puckered up tight enough to form a diamond

Only problem with the 2nd time round was the missus wanted to do it, I doubt I'll be able to get my nail marks out of the passenger grab handle I was gripping that hard.

As for mud, **** or silt getting everywhere; attacked the underside with the pressure washer today, there must have been 1/2" of mud & sand on the drive by the time I'd finished.

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You can come round and do mine

This Freelander was risking it