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Best non-oe engine conversion?

Discussion in 'Engines' started by thommilburn, Dec 5, 2013.

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  1. thommilburn

    thommilburn New Member

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    I'm looking to buy a defender and convert it into a real toy. I fancied a V8 but the fuel economy is off-putting, so i'm looking into diesel conversions.

    Now, i wouldnt mind having round about 200-230bhp with 300 being absolutly brilliant.

    I'm wondering which engines are regularly put into defenders that are reasonably simple to implant?

    I don't mind installing a donor gearbox but obviously i REALLY want to maintain off road ability, so ideally the landy 5 speed box would be used to keep costs down.

    Anyone any input? I see the ICON brand offer various engines and although a good starting point, they dont seem to offer much info beyond this.
     
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    SnowmanV8 Well-Known Member

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    TD5 lump will give you that!
     
  3. thommilburn

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    Reliably?

    My big thing is i would like to be able to do EVERYTHING on it myself, which would include any tuning - so ideally i wouldn't mind avoiding an ECU. This would come at detriment however as fuel economy etc is inevitably better when controlled by a computer.

    Additionally, i think a standard 90 TD5 is beyond my budget - wondering if it may be worth building one from the ground up?
     
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    Fit a 7.03L Cadillac engine like I'm doing and ignore the mpg.....




    300 brake out the box and 480ft/lbs
     
  5. SnowmanV8

    SnowmanV8 Well-Known Member

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    TD5's a reliable really!
     
  6. zen

    zen Well-Known Member Events Planner

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    i must pooh pooh a td5 at 300 hp..from a 2.5l diesel...=BANG

    i can recomend the lexus v8.4l or 4.3..or even better the toyota landcruiser v8. 4.7l

    i run boosted lexus lump on gas in my rrc..thats fun..but to fit was not easy, i would recomend keeping the lexus autobox and making it fit the lt230, cos otherwise its greif!!

    now on gas cost per mile will be less than a diesel...
     
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    SnowmanV8 Well-Known Member

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    I would have thought the TD5 lump is german is it not? Same as the 325 has?
     
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    no its not ,5 cylinders just happens to be a lot smoother than 4
     
  9. SnowmanV8

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    I know 5 cylinders is better than 4! I was wandering if it was BMW that put it land rovers! 200 BHP would be **** easy from a 2.5tdi. 300 I haven't looked into that exact engine but if it ****s itself at 300BHP you may want to look towards a german engine as they are as tough as hell!
     
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    as wrong as it is I'd like to fit the 4.2 audi unit
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    There is a guy on this forum (Glen - can't remember his forum name) with a BMW 330 engine in his Defender 90.
    Saw it at a show earlier this year. Very tidy conversion and sounded the absolute bollox. :cool:
     
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    Just checked - Glenn321.
    Well worth dropping him a PM. Nice chap. :)
     
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    Cheek! The TD5 is a 100% Rover design - BMW killed off development of this excellent engine as soon as they took over.
     
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    Lol oh. I would have to go German seen those 325ds running 350bhp with very little work.
     
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    what about the TGV 2.8 lump??

    or the 2.8 Isuzu td??

    cheers steve
     
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    325tds as in an M51 2.5 engine? I very much doubt you'd get 350bhp out of one of them. Chip and decat will get 180 easily but your kinda at the limits of reliability at 200bhp

    A 330/530d engine can get upto 300 alright though. That's what Glenn321 has and its a nice swap as like the 325tds engine, you can use the gearbox out of a Rangerover 2.5td and it'll all bolt up nicely.

    If I didn't get a TD5 110 and had time to build a Defender from the ground up, I would have went with the 3.0d engine. I'm using one in my E30 Touring alright though with a 6 speed box so will be nice :)

    If I was building a 90 for fun, I'd love to use an E39 M5 V8 :)


    I you like old skool diesel tuning, a Cummins V8 or inline 6 might be worth looking into. There's one over here in a Defender with 500Nm and sounds lovely
     
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    6.5 GMC Turbo Diesel V8 hehe

    we had one in our ex-elec board 127 a few years back :)
     
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    No the M57 325D same lump as the 330 but a few differences and a whole lot cheaper to buy. Can remap to around 270 easy enough.
    I want to make a disco with the E62 V10 :d use a pair for garret's and you could have a serious 1000WHP disco. Just be interesting to find a drivetrain to handle the power! You would be refering to the M47 that would **** it's guts out at 300 then swallow them again just so it could **** them back out!
     
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    !uzfe from me fitted and on the road a scream
     
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    i'm looking towards a cummins 6bt, if the economy wasnt an issue i'd be looking towards a ford cosworth v6 boa or bob. i had a boa in a sierra bags of power but when you had the power on it drank like a fish.
     
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