3litre turbo diesel from a '08 Hilux

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thoughts?? :D offered a cheap one today from a friend (who was rear ended by a truck), heard it running, sweet as a nut. the question is, is it possible to swap it with my, (most likely soon to die) td5 in my 2002 110, i dont know what gearbox i have, but reverse is bottom right??
 
If you can get the engine cheap enough then you can work on a conversion plate for the gearbox while you wait for your TD5 to blow up. If the TD5 keeps going you can sell the HiLux lump on and make some cash. All depends on what you can get it for.
 
Great engines, D4D, right?

Correct :)

everything is possible if you throw enough money at it

i know that but my budget is tight enough :(

If you can get the engine cheap enough then you can work on a conversion plate for the gearbox while you wait for your TD5 to blow up. If the TD5 keeps going you can sell the HiLux lump on and make some cash. All depends on what you can get it for.

Ive never even attempted anything like this before, so im sure there will be a million and one questions, but im assuming that the conversion plate is to link the block to the gearbox??
if so then is it possible to get one made up?
and has anyone got a picture of one to give me an idea of its function :)
Also, would i be better off taking the whole crashed HiLux, i assume ill need rads, intercooler, intake, turbo fuel, exhaust pipes etc??
 
Yep conversion plate merely attaches the engine block to the gearbox bell housing keeping everything centred and aligned. Somebody on here made one up so he could use a BMW M5 lump but I cant remember who it was. Apparently he took some thick aluminium plate and cut a circular hole in it so it would fit snugly over the flywheel. He then marked up and drilled the relevant holes for it to bolt to the engine block. Then he offered up the gearbox and marked out and drilled them Finally he made the flywheel hole bigger to give clearance and bolted the whole thing together. It dont have to be pretty but with a little effort you can make it look good.

You may be able to buy a ready made one but it wont be cheap as they would have done all the hard work.

I have an old bell housing plate from my old TD5 which I could draw around if you need a gearbox template. That would give you half the holes and all you'd then need to do is make a similar template for the engine and marry the two together. Once you have a proper template I'd make one out of MDF or plywood to check the fit then when happy any basic engineering shop would fabricate you one. Steel plate would be cheaper than aluminium.

I'd take the whole HiLux for a few pounds more as its no good to your mate without an engine and a mangled rear. Sell the bits you dont want to pay for the bits you do. You may find it easier to fit the HiLux engine/gearbox/xfer box then all you would need to do is get the propshafts sorted to bolt everything together. It all depends on the layout of the xfer box in relation to LR axles and diffs as to wether this is viable.
 
nice one shifty, that doesnt seem so impossible, and i know just the man to slap together a conversion plate, i think if this plan all goes ahead though, ill probably keep the g/box i have in it because i dont want to make **** of the interior repositioning the gear stick. :) i presume when you say
It all depends on the layout of the xfer box in relation to LR axles and diffs as to wether this is viable.
you mean if i was going the route of swaping gear and transfer boxes too yes? incidentally, will i need to beef up the props seeing as its a bigger engine or shold it be alright? im driving the 110 td5, if that makes a difference in load capacity on my props?
 
The 3.0 D4D puts out 170-175 bhp - about 60hp more than the TD5. It is a good 55% increase in power - whether the TD5 running gear can handle it would be completely down to your style of driving and what you use the vehicle for. I would think it would be fine.
 
The 3.0 D4D puts out 170-175 bhp - about 60hp more than the TD5. It is a good 55% increase in power - whether the TD5 running gear can handle it would be completely down to your style of driving and what you use the vehicle for. I would think it would be fine.

That extra power would be nice, basically like getting the td5 chipped :)
 
I heard told that the TD5 Alive demo vehicle is now putting out more than 200bhp running with a larger two stage ball race turbo.
Mine has a stage 2 remap with large intercooler, 1.2 bar boost, and a straight through full bore exhaust. No idea what bhp it is producing but the increase in torque is phenomenal. I'm no heathen but I also dont hold back and the standard trans and props are holding up just fine.
 
1.2 Bar of boost on a TD5? Crikey - how long do you expect your turbo to last or are you not bothered.

"two stage ball race turbo" - what does that mean?

Sorry, back on topic...yeah get the car complete, makes much more sense. My first sonsideration is roughly how big the engine is - will it go between the wings - will it need to sit ridiculously high to get decent ground clearance and so on.
 
right, time to do my homework, ill try get a look at this engine sometime during the week, ill bring my measuring tape :) sidenote: how much would ye consider paying for a 60000 mile 08 crashed HiLux with a 3L turbo? :)
 
1.2 Bar of boost on a TD5? Crikey - how long do you expect your turbo to last or are you not bothered.

"two stage ball race turbo" - what does that mean?

Sorry, back on topic...yeah get the car complete, makes much more sense. My first sonsideration is roughly how big the engine is - will it go between the wings - will it need to sit ridiculously high to get decent ground clearance and so on.
I turned the boost down from 1.5 bar so that I have a good chance of running the new engine in for a few thousand miles before it has to work for its keep. The stock Garret TD5 turbo can easily boost to more than 2 bar if you want it to. Adjusting the boost pressure has no effect on how quick the turbo wears out. It still spins at the same speeds but the wastegate opens later.

The two stage turbo is a hybrid turbo that has variable vane technology allowing it to take more energy from the exhaust gasses and spin much faster to generate higher boost. It has precision ball or taper bearings rather than the usual floating type found in most turbos. Its the latest in race car technology but it dont come cheap. Have a look online or at the TD5 web site for details.
 
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