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200 Tdi manual Gear Selection Problem

Discussion in 'Land Rover Discovery' started by wrcwrc, May 14, 2007.

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  1. wrcwrc

    wrcwrc New Member

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    Hi guys.

    Just aquired my first landy, a 200 Tdi on an H reg.

    Everything is fine, apart from a slight gear selection problem...


    3rd, 4th and 5th are perfect and couldnt be better.

    But - Reverse, 1st and 2nd are a bit fo a different story. The main problem is that they arent quite where they are supposed to be. I often end up selecting reverse when I want 1st - is is very hard to tell whether you have actually gone into 1st or reverse as they seem very close together. And for some reason it just doesnt feel right from when going from 1st to second - slightly offline or might just be me.


    The main problem is this 1st and reverse business - i can cope with it, but my missus refuses to drive it LOL . At first i thought jsut an easy linkage problem, but the setup isnt quite how I thougth t would be - as you probably know the gearstick basically goes straight down into the transmission tunnel and straight into the gearbox... ive taken the gearstick gator off, and am faced with some sound deadening and a black rubber boot where i presume the gearstick enters the gearbox - how am i going to be able to adjust this?????


    I really appreciate any help.

    Thanks.
     
  2. jbarlow

    jbarlow New Member

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    Hmmm, I've got a 200tdi (L reg) too. When I first got it the missus had a few probs with the gears. She had a habit of sticking it in reverse instead of 1st and trying to put it in first instead of 3rd sometimes (crunchy). I think because the gearstick is further away than a normal car the tendancy is to push it to the left as you change gear.

    Once you get used to it, it's ok - just have to hope you haven't reversed into something when pulling away before you do :)

    There's a spring loaded plastic thing that gets in the way of reverse which gives a very slight resistance so try pushing very gently over to the left when you select 1st and you should be ok.

    The 1st -> 2nd thing could also be because you're not used to it I guess but I don't remember having any probs with that.
     
  3. cossiedreamer

    cossiedreamer New Member

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    Dont dispair there is loads on here about this problem, just use the search facility, it could be the syncro, i'm not a gearbox man but lots go like this and i'm not sure theres an EASY fix.
    Mines auto and the wife STILL!!! cant find reverse:p :p :p


    SMACK......................Anyone know A&E's number!!!!!!!
     
  4. disco dan

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    Got a similar problem with mine, found it difficult at first, getting used to it now, still get a crunch changing down to second from time to time, as i was told on here, the synchro can be knackered for a long time before it gives up completely, either shell out for another box, or learn to live with it, my wife won't drive ours till i get it fixed so i'm not in too much of a hurry
     
  5. Dave 2000

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    Hi, I,m no expert but I have the same problem on my 93 (Spain spec) 200dti and I am told there is a guide plate on top of the gearbox which has springs. Apparently the lugs holding the springs break off and the gearstick gets a little lost I THINK the part number was FRC 9340, check it out on Ashcroft Transmission website. When I have found out more info I will order one myself, but my location in Spain means I pay for anything shipped over even if wrongly ordered! It can be fitted from inside once some pop rivets are removed.

    regards

    Dave
     
  6. CharlesY

    CharlesY Well-Known Member

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    That last post is the way to go.

    There is a simple spring-loaded device on the top of the box designed to need a bump to let you cross over to line up with reverse. Over time, it weakens or breaks and stops working, so the stick doesn't have that "wall" on the left to slide up and down between 1st and 2nd, and goes too far so you catch reverse and a blank space for second.


    Easy to trace and easy to fix, but .....

    I suspect lots of guys out there will be reverse engineering these bits so their wives threaten not to drive their Landies any more. Some threat!

    Disco TD5 and most cars with 5th above reverse have similar thing to stop you in ANY circumstances going into reverse when trying to change down from 5th to 4th at 70 mph. Imagine if it went in! What a mess ....

    Such cars MUST have the gear lever waggled away from 5th before you can get reverse.

    When your kids have been playing in your car, and it won't go into reverse to get out the driveway .... !

    CharlesY
     
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