Sweden Offroad Tour... Thinking of taking part next year.

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Hi all,

Myself and a friend are considering taking part in some overseas 4x4
event.

We have previously been considering going to Iceland but it is way too
expensive. Our next choice location is Sweden, particularly the
Sweden Off Road Tour as featured in this months LRO mag (we have been
thinking about it for the last 9 months but now need to act).

Myself and a friend are considering taking part in next years event
and would welcome any advice / experiences! Whats it like, Friendly,
easy / hard?

Getting there is easy, drive to Newcastle, jump on a ferry and then
head south for 70 miles at the other end.

Im assuming camping will be the order of the day, or should that be
fortnight!

Perhaps most important is the type of off-roading - We are both
experienced Green Laners and have taken part in RTV trials for the
last 2 years. Will this be sufficient experience?

Neither vehicle has a winch (yet) - If anyone has any experience of
this tour would this be a problem? I have a 200Tdi 90 with BFG AT
235x85 R16s. My mates 300Tdi Disco 1 has similar sized Khomo MTs.

Any experiences or advice please.

Thanks
Jon
 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:42:39 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Our next choice location is Sweden, particularly the


Do it.

>Sweden Off Road Tour as featured in this months LRO mag (we have been
>thinking about it for the last 9 months but now need to act).


Not seen that, but do it anyway. I love Sweden and the people are
about as nice as you'll find anywhere.

www.lapland2000.org.uk was my last jaunt - about time for another
methinks...

 
Mother wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:42:39 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Our next choice location is Sweden, particularly the

>
>
> Do it.


Apart from the fact it would be "cool", it would be cool to do. And as
Jon says, a hell of a lot cheaper than Iceland.

What sort of costs Jon ?

Steve
 
On 2005-06-15, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> Not seen that, but do it anyway. I love Sweden and the people are
> about as nice as you'll find anywhere.


One note of caution though, I went on a Wales weekend with an
organised company, it was one of the most embarassing experiences in
my landy as there was a convoy of 15 trucks "broken up" into two
groups about 20 seconds apart. Meeting other lane users was very
embarassing, even meeting people on small country lanes was
cringeworthy. I only stuck it out because I was logging the trip on a
GPS so I could go back sometime with a more sensible convoy.

The chap organising it said that there's another chap who is involved
with one of the landrover mags who regularly organises 50-strong
convoys along those same lanes. It's not surprising that honeypot
areas like Wales, the Yorkshire Dales and the Ridgeway tend to get a
lot of heat applied to them.

Not sure if this applies in Sweden, but if you're convoy-sensitive
then best check first.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
Steve,
Best I can tell to date Ferry crossing will be approx £1200 - £1500
(depending on how early you book your tickets) for 4 adults, 2
vehicles and 2 kids, based on Newcastle - Gothenburg with DFDS
seaways. Others may be cheaper but I havent looked yet.

Each day's offroading (16 days in total if you do all the days) is
approx £30 per vehicle, payable each morning. But the beauty is you
dont have to do all the days, you can miss days out and then join the
"party" further north a few days later - this is good because if the
mrs wants to do a spot of shopping in Stockholm I can keep her happy
too!

Camping costs - dont know

Food costs - last time I was in Kiruna (earlier this year) similar to
the UK - Unless you go to the Icehotel restaurant, then get a mortgage
before you go - (nice food there though)!!!!

regards,
Jon



On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:04:32 +0100, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mother wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:42:39 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Our next choice location is Sweden, particularly the

>>
>>
>> Do it.

>
>Apart from the fact it would be "cool", it would be cool to do. And as
>Jon says, a hell of a lot cheaper than Iceland.
>
>What sort of costs Jon ?
>
>Steve


 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:51 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2005-06-15, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote:
>
>> Not seen that, but do it anyway. I love Sweden and the people are
>> about as nice as you'll find anywhere.

>
>One note of caution though, I went on a Wales weekend with an
>organised company, it was one of the most embarassing experiences in
>my landy as there was a convoy of 15 trucks "broken up" into two
>groups about 20 seconds apart. Meeting other lane users was very
>embarassing, even meeting people on small country lanes was
>cringeworthy. I only stuck it out because I was logging the trip on a
>GPS so I could go back sometime with a more sensible convoy.
>
>The chap organising it said that there's another chap who is involved
>with one of the landrover mags who regularly organises 50-strong
>convoys along those same lanes. It's not surprising that honeypot
>areas like Wales, the Yorkshire Dales and the Ridgeway tend to get a
>lot of heat applied to them.
>
>Not sure if this applies in Sweden, but if you're convoy-sensitive
>then best check first.


To the best of my knowledge it is illegal to drive off the highway in
Sweden unless the ground is covered in snow! The beauty of this tour
is that all off-roading is on private and military grounds and express
permission has been granted.

Jon
 
Hello Jon,
I'm a Canadian living over in Sweden. I can fill you in with the SORT.

The organizer, what he has done, is made it, so that you can make your way, as you wish between days events. Your not required to follow any set "convoy rules" , you can choose your routes, from location to location, travel with who you want and take as much time as you wish.

As for the daily events, they are all held on private lands or on military training areas. The level of difficulties, depends on you. Some of the facilities that I've taken my land rover to, had many different trails, depending or your skills or the vehicles abilities.

Off roading is 100% illegal in this country! Snow has nothing to do with it, sorry . There is a protected plant or something to that effect, which only grows here in Sweden. The politians, instead of listening to the people or any studies, didn't take the reasonable route and made any protected land reserves or sancuraries, they simply banned ALL access to everybody.
Any and all 4x4ing, is now done on private lands.

If you do plan to come over this way, email me, we can meet up at a few of the events, next year or I can provide my garage and tools, if the need arises.

This year, the event to check out is the Norwegain Land Rover Club's meet. It's their 30th anni. and it's expected to be 250-300 LR's there this year. The event will be a week long, with off roading everyday! Of course, you can take part or just sit back and watch or sun tan ( if the sun comes out ;) )


Cheers,
Todd.
 
Todd,
Many thanks for your input and kind offer of a garage and tools -
given that we are talking about old'ish Landrovers this is a nice
comforting thought! It sounds like the Swedish government are a
helpful bunch and always willing to listen their voting public!

Clearly we are still in the early stages of planning at the moment,
but the more I hear about the event, the more I want to take part. I
have saved your email address and will certainly be in touch if we
manage to get the ferry booked!!

Have you done any of the SORT days before?

Just had a look at the Norwegian event... If only I had the time &
money!!!

Regards,
Jon

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:03:59 +0000, tuko
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Hello Jon,
>I'm a Canadian living over in Sweden. I can fill you in with the
>SORT.
>
>The organizer, what he has done, is made it, so that you can make your
>way, as you wish between days events. Your not required to follow any
>set "convoy rules" , you can choose your routes, from location to
>location, travel with who you want and take as much time as you wish.
>
>As for the daily events, they are all held on private lands or on
>military training areas. The level of difficulties, depends on you.
>Some of the facilities that I've taken my land rover to, had many
>different trails, depending or your skills or the vehicles abilities.
>
>Off roading is 100% illegal in this country! Snow has nothing to do
>with it, sorry . There is a protected plant or something to that
>effect, which only grows here in Sweden. The politians, instead of
>listening to the people or any studies, didn't take the reasonable
>route and made any protected land reserves or sancuraries, they simply
>banned ALL access to everybody.
>Any and all 4x4ing, is now done on private lands.
>
>If you do plan to come over this way, email me, we can meet up at a
>few of the events, next year or I can provide my garage and tools, if
>the need arises.
>
>This year, the event to check out is the 'Norwegain Land Rover
>Club's' (http://2005.nlrks.no/english/) meet. It's their 30th anni. and
>it's expected to be 250-300 LR's there this year. The event will be a
>week long, with off roading everyday! Of course, you can take part or
>just sit back and watch or sun tan ( if the sun comes out ;) )
>
>
>Cheers,
>Todd.


 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:51 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I went on a Wales weekend with an
>organised company, it was one of the most embarassing experiences in
>my landy as there was a convoy of 15 trucks "broken up" into two
>groups about 20 seconds apart.


Who/Where was this Ian?

We were chatting about this at Eastnor over the weekend.

 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:43:22 +0000 (UTC), Jon
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Unless you go to the Icehotel restaurant, then get a mortgage
>before you go - (nice food there though)!!!!


I didn't think it was really that unreasonable - mind, after a week
out in huts in the middle of nowhere...

 
>
>>Unless you go to the Icehotel restaurant, then get a mortgage
>>before you go - (nice food there though)!!!!

>
>I didn't think it was really that unreasonable - mind, after a week
>out in huts in the middle of nowhere...



Expense.... Its all relative I supose. We went to the more expensive
of the two restaurants they have and it was superb - cant really
complain. But like I say it was quite expensive.

That said, after 16 days of doing the SORT, Im sure that same
resaturant could be at the top of my list before resturning south.

....easy come, easy go...
 
Todd (or any others with experience),

Just had a thought, clearly the tour is geared around getting from
Falkenburg to Kiruna...

But what happens then? What are the provisions for getting "home" /
back to Falkenburg? Is this organised too or do you have to make your
own way back and find your own campsites / accomodation?

Just a thought because I would imagine it must take 3 long days
driving to get from Kiruna to Gothenburg to katch the Ferry?

Thanks
Jon
 
Exactly Jon,
You make your own way back to Gothenburg. I think the whole idea with the SORT is to provide you with an opportunity to experience Sweden and at the same time, enjoying some 4x4ing everyday.

The people that I've meet, that came over from your way, made it an summer vacation, where they took in other Land Rover events, while they were here. This way, there was no time restriction on them, or at least they had extra time if things did wrong with the landy. ( lets hope for the best of course )

Todd.
 
On 2005-06-20, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> Who/Where was this Ian?


It was in the Brecon Beacons a while ago, other than us we saw about
10 other trucks either individual trucks or groups of two or three.
When green-laning it's extremely rare for me to ever come across
someone else so even another 10 trucks not in our group is large.

--
For every expert, there is an equal but opposite expert
 
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