TD4 Air conditioning problem

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Mondo, I just wondered which ez fill kit you brought for your aircon. Was it just the top kit or the complete re-charge one. Also how do you know how much gas to fill the system with? My aircon isn't working very well at the moment and wanted to try re-charge.
 
Dark_Rocco said:
Mondo, I just wondered which ez fill kit you brought for your aircon.
Ez Fill -Recharge plus. comes with all destructions and a crap plastic pressure guage, that was as much use as a chocolate fire guard, so I just Guessed till it worked
It Aint technical, Which wos good for me:rolleyes:
 
i just gassed up my ac with the halfords kit it cost £39 but you get a free steriliser worth £12 so its not 2 bad it has a gauge that did not work a leak sealer and lube etc , i just hooked it up sprayed some in till the clutch on the ac started to kick in put a bit more in then left it at that nice cool car ,to sterilised the ac is easy you just run the ac set it to recerculate stand the sterilising spray on the floor set it off and leave the car and for 5 mins smells great now.im going to take the filling kit back to halfords next week and get the gauge swapped out so i can check if i have put the correct amount of gas in and top up if necessary hell they may even give me a hole new kit
 
My apologies for resurrecting an old thread but just to say thankyou for all the advice I have received from these boards I thought I would post a few pics on the re-gassing of the air con system.

1. Locate the filler point.





2. Start the engine, turn on the AC at max cold and Check the pressure using the gauge supplied.




3. If the AC clutch does not engage, the gas will seem to fill very quickly. This is because the pump is not running and you are only pressurising the pipes, not the full system. Check that the pump is running by looking behind the plastic cover on the off side of the engine just above the under tray...



Thus, spinning..



Not spinning..



If it's not spinning, turn the engine off and jemmy it round a few times with a screwdriver, it worked for me.

4. Restart the engine and continue filling the gas, release the button every few seconds and shake the can otherwise it freezes up the filler hose and stops coming out of the can. Continue until you get the desired pressure.
Note, if the AC pump stops running the pressure will indicate much higher, so make sure it's still running....



Hope this helps.

I apologise if I am teaching anyone to suck eggs. :)
 
Booked mine in for a regas after this hot weather to at least get cool. Local kwikfit friday afternoon at 3pm. They phoned to cancel as the machine had broke down. No real problem apart from already paying up front on line. Phoned customer service today to get a refund and was told it would take 5 to 10 days for it to get back into my account. Cheeky sods took my 49 quid straight out of my account when I paid!!
Anyway phoned another near work, checked their machine was working, booked it in and all sorted, cold as ice and even blowing colder when just running the fan on cold setting. Well pleased, and it only cost 30 quid cos manager wasnt there.










blowing
 
mine was blowing hot air last year ( bought the '06 hippo in feb 2012 )
got it charged up .. all nice 'n ice-kool

used the ac/demist all thru winter .. few times a week ..

come summer this year .. ac cooling not very efficient ..
to the point that .. having all windows open works better

would have thought a re-charge would last a bit longer :-/

debating wether to re-charge it / look for a leak
or disable it altogether ..
take out the ac fuse so it don't run with the demist in winter
 
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Well folks this is an old thread.

Here's my experience.

I use my AC almost every day - in fact I have to decide when to NOT use it.

I use it as a manual controlled Climate Control along with the heat setting dial.

All through the Winter I run it along with heat to keep the windows clear and the humidity down.

I know all the usual comments about how it wastes fuel and so on.

But here's the crunch for me - I've never needed to top up, or do anything to it, in 9 years and 115K miles.

Set on re-circ with fan at speed one I can get air from the central vents at 2.5 degrees C - that's the coldest setting.

Without re-circ and the fan on a higher setting the air vents give around 8 to 10 degrees - depending on outside temp.

If you cant get air at less than 5 degrees with re-circ and fan speed one, your AC needs attention. Easily checked with a cheapy digital temperature gauge from eBay around £5.

I rarely need more than speed one except perhaps for a few minutes when I return to the car if it's been sitting in the sun.

I never drive with the windows open either.

So any extra cost on fuel is compensated by not having had to do any repairs.

The AC compressor of course does not run all the time - but only when needed - so all through the winter it is being sporadically used - I think it's this which keeps everything in good order.

Most of the so-called 'luxury' vehicles with full climate control, have a system where the AC is powered all the time and comes into play as required to maintain a set temperature by balancing hot and cold air.

I'm trying to copy that - after a bit of practice it's fairly easy - without fiddling with controls all the time.
 
AC is best used every week, it circulates the lubricant and helps prevent leaks.

It is also very useful in the winter, even if using the heater, if its very damp/wet A/C dries the air as it comes in helping to demist quicker.
 
bought some 'EZ Chill Auto Air Conditioning Recharge' from halfords
.. £10 refund on empty container ..
( Interdynamics Europe - The AirCon Service in a Can! )

hooked it up .. gauge read zero :-(
started to charge it .. compressor kicked in ..
gauge got to the first bit of the green section .. wouldn't go any higher
was aiming for the 71f temp reading ..
when i inverted the container the gauge shot up into the begining of the red section :-/
container right-way-up .. gauge back in green ..

anyhowz .. ended up using the lot ..
( hope i didn't overdo the pressure .. )

ac now works fine .. took a 40 mile drive with windows closed ..
fergot how quiet it can be :) .. by comparison ..

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found some roll-up bamboo-slats window blind .. left over from a d.i.y. house project
be just the right width to fit between the 'a' frames ..
attached two elastic shoelaces to it .. hooked them over the sunvisor clips
now have a windscreen / dashboard shade for when the hippo is parked up .. :)
( it's facing south when parked at home )
 
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I did mine last night/today. The gauge read zero on mine too when I first connected it, filled as much as I could but the gauge was fluctuating between the white section and just into the green. The temp was only just a little better. Today I got another bottle and charged the system, this time the pressure increased to the green section and no more fluctuating gauge, just nice cold air :)
 
Not spinning..



"If it's not spinning, turn the engine off and jemmy it round a few times with a screwdriver, it worked for me"

I have the none turning wheel in the picture above,
the belt is running round it and the outer edge seems to be turning with the belt,
but the inner section is very loose & turns freely with a screwdriver,
but doesn't spin at all,with the Air Con on and the engine running,,

Any ideas guys???

Would like it to be a little cooler in there,,,
 
but doesn't spin at all,with the Air Con on and the engine running,

if that inner section is the compressor ..

( i'm assuming .. as i couldn't even see mine from above .. or below
( i suppose the undertray has to be removed ..

and it spins freely with a screwdriver .. i'd guess it's not seized up .. ..
( i.e. there's a clutch system in there somewhere that activates the compressor )
sooooooo .. system could be low on gas pressure .. in which case the compressor won't activate ..
'cause there's a pressure switch .. that stops the ac if the pressure is too low
be a safety measure to protect the compressor ..
.. maybe it needs a gas re-charge ..
might be worth checking that the ac fuse hasn't blown .. be no.9 in the engine compartment fuse box

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http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-Your-Car's-Air-Conditioner
" If you have any reason to suspect that your refrigerant has leaked out completely .. .. .. .. as well as a new condenser, evaporator, and expansion valve/orifice tube because the compressor sent shards of metal throughout the entire system when it died " :(
 
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Thanks for that,
I have had the Freelander since last September and never used the air con, so I would
imaging that it is probably empty, I will first check No 9 fuse, can you show the location of
the Pressure sensor and or a picture of it?? then I can clean that up just

Then I will get it leak tested and re-gassed..
as always cheapest first and move to the next thing..
 
can you show the location of the Pressure sensor and or a picture of it??

be a pic of it in the haynes manual ..
tbh .. looking at the pic .. i've not a clue where it is :)

don't see that there's much to clean on it .. apart from the electrical plug contacts ..
i'll take a photo 'n post it in a minutes or two ..

btw: fuse '9' be the 10amp fuse .. bottom Left one .. of the small fuses in the engine compartment ..
i.e. looking-forward-from-the-passenger-seat ..

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and .. doing a d.i.y. re-charge with that system from halfords be very easy ..
about as easy as pumping up a tyre ..
( i got the extension hose as well )
and the container text did mention it included an oil and sealant in the 'mix' ..
( can't quote it as the empty container has been returned for the £10 refund )
 
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or a picture of it??

pic attached ( from haynes manual )
sais it's "located on the ac pipe in the left-hand front corner of the engine compartment"
and sais the undertray comes of first ..
i.e. " left-hand " as if your in the drivers seat
 

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looks like the fuse and then a re-ass,,

Thanks very much for your time and effort helping with this..
Very much appreciated..

P.S The under tray was taken off a few weeks ago to find
an oil leak, not back on just yet,,and I do know where all
the fixings are...LOL

At least I think I do...
 
and I do know where all
the fixings are...LOL

yer ahead of me .. i've yet to get the undertray bolts out :)
did try at one point .. some bolts refused to budge ..
did my back in tryin' that .. and the rear arch fuel filter ..
even bought some fancy sockets for knackered/rusty bolts
but .. methinks i might let the local LR garage do the job ..
( bit silly given the fine dry weather .. i've no garage at home )
 
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