How VCU works.

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Iin normal driving the rear wheels are turning the rear propshaft and rear of the VCU slightly faster than the IRD is turning the front propshaft and front of the VCU, the silicon gel in the VCU remains fluid.
Doing the one wheel up test makes the rear of the VCU turn and not the front, the silcon gel resists the shearing effect by trying to lock the VCU up.
It does not prove what forces are being appled through the VCU during normal driving.
Land Rovers own description of how it works will do for me.

im only going by experience and what lr engineers discussed with us when we were working together on different projects,around the time freelander was introduced, you will find i think because of slight speed differential freelander vcus live shorter lives than rrc and p38
 
When both propshafts are turning at virtually the same speed, the VCU is running free and not transmitting drive.
It will only start to lock up when the two props try to turn at different speeds, when the front wheels lose traction, or you jack a back wheel up an try to turn the rear prop and not the front.
Land Rovers description on how it works is clear enough.
A working vcu always has drive across it, be it drive from the engine end pushing or from the rear wheels dragging, in straight line driving with perfect tyres.

Iin normal driving the rear wheels are turning the rear propshaft and rear of the VCU slightly faster than the IRD is turning the front propshaft and front of the VCU, the silicon gel in the VCU remains fluid.
Doing the one wheel up test makes the rear of the VCU turn and not the front, the silcon gel resists the shearing effect by trying to lock the VCU up.
It does not prove what forces are being appled through the VCU during normal driving.
Land Rovers own description of how it works will do for me.
The fluid seems to be able to stay fluid all the time but change it's "stickiness" properties whilst doing so.

I agree the one wheel up test is a stationary comparison and not what's happening during driving (you would need to film the speed of the props with and without the vcu to do this, with perfectly matched tyres on level straight ground. But make sure you do it at slow speeds as the camera won't be fast enough to capture the spinning at speed - even with flags on the props ;)). the one wheel test is the best comparison we have but it's only a guide. It does pick out vcu's which have a higher resistance across them than others.

There is always a resistance across a working vcu. In the case of straight line driving with perfect matching tyres, the rear prop will turn faster than the front prop, which casus a ratio difference across the vcu. This has an effect on the Freelander, be it to slow it down due to transmission wind up with the drive from front or rear dragging winning, to overcome what would happen with front wheel drive only.

It would be nice if LR went further with their explanation. A vcu doesn't just switch on and off. It has resistance across it all the time if it's working correctly. Try turning it by hand yourself. It's the varying resistance v temperature of the fluid and it's reaction which produces the magic.

As the ratio of speed of front/rear prop increases, the sheering effect in the vcu become greater. The differing plates rotate at differing speeds, and this speed increases as the ratio increases. The sheering effect creates heat which has an effect on the fluid in the vcu. The greater the heat the more the fluid inside the vcu wants to grab the plates and reduce the differing speed at which they turn at, in comparison to each other. Hence the vcu starts to seize, or betterer put, the resistance across the vcu becomes greater and the vcu seizes momentarily if the ratio is great enough to cause it too. When the vcu is in this state the lack of differing speed of the differing plates means the sheering effect reduces and the fluid cools. This cooling effect allows the vcu to slip more as the resistance across itself reduces. This causes the speed difference between the props (and hence the inner vcu plates) to increase again. The vcu's plate don't fully release their grip as the fuild in the vcu will cool until the ratio of differing speed between the props (and hence the plate) increases to an extent where the sheering effect causes the fluid to heat up again, and the resistance across the vcu increases.

It's this varying resistance across the vcu which is a reaction of the fluids ability to rapidly warm up and cool down inside the vcu, which is why the vcu works so well. If you can mentally visualise the rapid alternating from "some resistance" to "more resistance" to near or seized, and back again due to the expected drop in resistance thereafter (due to cooling when the plates get closer to a 1:1 ratio), then you can appreciate why the vcu has the ability to vary the resistance across itself. It's the rapid heating/cooling which is proportunal to the changing ratio applied to the vcu, which varies the resistance (and therefore drive) across it. It's this ability of varying resistance which is key to the vcu reacting to conditions (ratio of drive across it) to achieve a state of equilibrium resistance, with respect to the ratio across it. This equilibrium state varies as the ratio across it varies. Hence the vcu varies the resistance across itself, whilst monitoring/reacting to change of ratio across itself. On an "as and when required" basis. It's when this goes wrong the vcu feks up.
 
I know the early Freelander rear wheels were driven at a different speed to later ones via the IRD. I can't remember when the crossover happened and also what is the ratio on the later ones.

This I guess makes the later ones feel slightly less like a front wheel drive car compared to the early ones.

How much rotation is required for it to start providing drive to the rear wheels?
 
I know the early Freelander rear wheels were driven at a different speed to later ones via the IRD. I can't remember when the crossover happened and also what is the ratio on the later ones.

This I guess makes the later ones feel slightly less like a front wheel drive car compared to the early ones.

How much rotation is required for it to start providing drive to the rear wheels?
1. 2001 model year onwards. So all T4d and v6 should be later version, and the 1.8 petrol from same date onwards. That's assuming they int had a change to the wrong ratio by mistake. There's a reference to 0.8% in rave. Can't remember the other figure.
2. I assume so. LR must have made the change for a reason.
3. I filmed this a bit ago but haven't sorted the vid to see clearly. I think it's within 1 full wheel turn. Will post results one day.
 
I believe LR changed the ratio slightly to reduce the straight line drag. I don't know why LR didn't gear the front and rear at the same ratio. This way the VCU turns as a single unit while travelling straight. Whenever the car turns a corner, no matter how gentle the rear wheels will turn slower. The way LR geared the drive only makes this turning situation worse.
 
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There are too many variables for the VCU temperature to be a reliable test, e.g. difference in tyre circumference, but it can give you a clue especially if you are comparing your own results over time.

The "1 wheel up" test is much better, or a bench test better still (but also less convenient).

Vehicle speed is irrelevant (apart from obviously it being much harder for the front wheels to slip at higher speed).
 
There are too many variables for the VCU temperature to be a reliable test, e.g. difference in tyre circumference, but it can give you a clue especially if you are comparing your own results over time.

The "1 wheel up" test is much better, or a bench test better still (but also less convenient).

Vehicle speed is irrelevant (apart from obviously it being much harder for the front wheels to slip at higher speed).
There are variables which effect the turnip test but the idea is to do the test then compare the result to what you would expect. If it's cold look at why it's cold = tyres perfect front/ rear ratio, no drive to rear, vcu seized, vcu empty... too hot = over worked vcu due to tyres etc. The turnip test should always be performed with the one wheel up test. Both tests work together to tell us different things.

Vehicle speed is important during the turnip test. Test results show over a set distance on the same route a vcu will be hotter at a higher speed when compared to the same vcu doing the same route at a lower speed.
 
Vehicle speed is important during the turnip test. Test results show over a set distance on the same route a vcu will be hotter at a higher speed when compared to the same vcu doing the same route at a lower speed.

I was responding to the OP asking whether the 4WD worked up to a specific speed.
 
I was responding to the OP asking whether the 4WD worked up to a specific speed.
Sorry. Some electrically enabled 4x4 drive systems activate/deactivate at different speeds. I assume this is what OP was thinking about.
 
Sorry. Some electrically enabled 4x4 drive systems activate/deactivate at different speeds. I assume this is what OP was thinking about.

My a Yeti was full time 4x4 from stationary, so you could floor it at the traffic light GP and very few people could get away as quick as they got wheels pin,whereas the Yeti just accelerated with no drama.

As the speed increased, I understand the 4x4 reduced to about 95% or so (drag in Haldex) unless a wheel started to spin the the 4x4 kicked in.
 
My a Yeti was full time 4x4 from stationary, so you could floor it at the traffic light GP and very few people could get away as quick as they got wheels pin,whereas the Yeti just accelerated with no drama.

As the speed increased, I understand the 4x4 reduced to about 95% or so (drag in Haldex) unless a wheel started to spin the the 4x4 kicked in.
The Freelander 2 engages 4x4 when pulling away. It then goes to fwd until 4x4 is needed again.
 
And they break. Our Tiguan Haldex failed at under 50K miles. This left the car as an expensive FWD!! I prefer the Freelander VCU, it's cheaper to fix.


I sold my Ueti and bought the Freelander hoping that it would be cheaper to fix when it went wrong.

The Yeti also had the DSG wet clutch 6 speed gearbox. ££££££
 
So i guess a 5-7km of a city run on normal conditions is to short to increese the temp in the vcu. As i run on the highway for about 20km at a speed of 110km/h the temp is hotter, but you can hold the vcu wit hand. Probably start and stops in city dtive are not enought the vcu to rise the temp.

Thanks to all for you helpful and usful informations

Zoki
 
Hi Gents,

Long time no chat :)

I hope you are all well.

I like to now is there a way to grease up the VCU Bearings...and there is so...what should I do.

Thanks
Zoran
 
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