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Old 17th-December-2005, 22:55
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Default Re: Freelander loss of power at 70mph

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THe Saga Continues....

Apparently everything around the turbo such as actuators etc has been replaced. The garage have spoken to a help desk and they reckon it might be a 2002 engine management software issue. The car is going in next week for diagnostics/ reprogramming etc etc so we will see how this goes. Keep you informed. Very helpful garage and nice to do businesss with.

I just read this post and relised.

The few ive had in for the power fault , ive also read the program history to see how many times they have had there ECU's reflashed and 2 or 3 of them had had this done recentley.

It does seem that theLR dealers are trying to get the easy wayout by just plugging in the T4 test book flashing the ecu and sending the customer on his/her way.

Also on another note dont let them fob you off and tell you that the reflash needs time to settle in because it DONT .
If the car dont run ok when you pick it up after flashing it wont ever.
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Old 18th-December-2005, 01:18
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Ive gotta admit I have the same problem but at higher speeds it happens at about 90mph it just suddenly dies on me then after a mile of the foot flat to the floor it starts to pick up, it never used to be like that tho' at lower speeds it pulls really well. I took it to the dealers and all they wanted to do was check the computer and re-flash it and check it again.... dont the "experts" realise that not every problem can be diagnosed by a bloody computer sometimes just by listening test driving and organaleptically checking the vehicle will be enough to diagnose the fault.. these *technicians* (fitters) not mechanics have been trained by the little britain character! "the computer says no"........................ arrrgh dont get me started!
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Old 19th-December-2005, 08:16
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Yeah relating back a couple of posts earlier fuel filters are a common problem apparently, but as the landrover tec said, if it is a fuel filter prob it will pick up on the diagnostics

I'm now deeply suspicious of any prob of sudden power loss being due to the sticky of not working valve on the turbo - i'll bet that in a year or 2 they'll change the design on it
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Old 19th-December-2005, 09:56
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Glad to see some of you have had your issues resolved.

At least there is hope for the rest of us still trying to find a resolution.

I don't want to go through a process of changing bits just to see if it will cure the problem scenario especially at the prices main L/R dealers charge.

When I put my car into a garage I expect them to identify the fault and fix it at the least cost possible.

Call me a cynic but if your main L/R dealer can't solve the problem first time around then it is difficult to believe they will solve it if given the vehicle for a second, third, fourth etc time.

Besides if they tell you they replaced a part because it was faulty (and most bits aren't cheap) how would we non mechanics know whether or not we were being told porkies?

Nice to see someone was able to find a main L/R dealer who cured the problem. But I wonder whether the AFM that was replaced previously really needed to be replaced??? And at what cost???

In spite of the current problem I am still a keen fan of Freelanders. Would I buy another? Possibly but only if I could find a dealer who actually knew what customer care was and practised it.

Regards to all. Hope Santa is good to you. And that in 2006 we will all have happily found the cure and be happy bunnies again.
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Old 19th-December-2005, 14:11
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Mine still has the same problem despite changing the two hoses on top of the engine.

While driving there is still a “sucking” noise from the engine area!

Having studied my “backup” copy of “Rave” I could find no illustration of the air intake hoses or tubes (anyone else found them?)

So today I thought that I would have a look from underneath as I had the chance to use a ramp.

On inspection I could see the pipe leading to the turbo had another flexible hose as a connector between the turbo and the hard pipe from the intercooler. Ah ha I felt it and sure enough it was very soft (engine had cooled down).

So I took a trip of to my nearest LR parts dept (who know me and sold me the previous two new pipes) and asked for said pipe. Result; deadly silence then confused looks, then the question – which pipe are you on about?

I explained where it fitted but after studying the screen they could not find any reference to the pipe I wanted. Eventually they found a diagram and asked me if that was the pipe? I looked at the screen and could just about remember the shape of the hard pipe and the rubber one was there on the screen.

Then came the bad news I was told that LR have replaced these two items “for some reason” with a combined one piece pipe. Great I asked for one!

Bad news again they don’t stock them, an ordered one would not come for 5 working days and the price - £70 + VAT

Looking forward to travelling home tonight at 68MPH

Bah humbug LR
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Old 19th-December-2005, 19:20
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I had a problem like this with my Freelander loss of power. I had a new airflow meter fitted.Which restored power abit. But when I change my diesel fuel filter I noticed a great improvement!. The diesel fuel filters only cost a few quid, and don't take more than a few mins to fit.There is a hand pump on the in-line side on the fuel line. Just squeeze it a few times to prime the new filter and away you go. it worked for me.
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Hi Chris,

I take it you are talking about an Xedi and not a Td4 than ??
I took a look at the Td4 today as my car has 5 years and about 50.000 kms and filter hasn't been changed, so I bought a filter and after having that look today I have to agree with one of the earlier inputs I read about where someone says changing that filter is a pain in the a.., not the "few mins" job you are talking about ??? (also no hand pump at all on Td4, guess one has to leave the contact on for the fuelpump to fill as much as possible the fuelfilter and afterwards continue the filling by cranking the engine with the startermotor, another needed item is in my opinion a mirror to see where the filterhousing is screwed onto the LH inner wheelarch underneath the ECU and fusesboxes).

Hi Chris,

My thinking is confirmed by your other input:
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Hi can anyone advise?
I own a Freelander 2.0 Xedi.


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Old 22nd-December-2005, 19:29
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Hello Everyone,

My problem will be going on in 2007. The garage remapped the ECU doing various checks etc etc but to no avail. They reckon I have a duff turbo which was new a couple of months ago. They reckon when you run along at say 50mph everything is fine but when you speed up, things get hotter and the turbo starts to seize and so slow and so loose power. As things cool down everything picks up again for the cycle to start again. Let you know in 2007 how things go.

I must say my independant LR garage are really putting a lot of work into this problem and they are a pleasure to be with. Hope we get to the gbottom of this soon.

Happy Christmas everyone out there.
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Old 22nd-December-2005, 19:41
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Hello Everyone,

My problem will be going on in 2007. The garage remapped the ECU doing various checks etc etc but to no avail. They reckon I have a duff turbo which was new a couple of months ago. They reckon when you run along at say 50mph everything is fine but when you speed up, things get hotter and the turbo starts to seize and so slow and so loose power. As things cool down everything picks up again for the cycle to start again. Let you know in 2007 how things go.

I must say my independant LR garage are really putting a lot of work into this problem and they are a pleasure to be with. Hope we get to the gbottom of this soon.

Happy Christmas everyone out there.
lol where do you live , you must be 1 year in front of us lot if you getting it done in 2007


Ps has the garage changed/chqed the simple things like fuel pipes and filters ???
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Old 22nd-December-2005, 22:07
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Hello, again glad to say my rant is over,, the td4 is self priming so no need to keep power on or hand pump, I changed my filter one of the first things I done loads of black shit come out, changed the afm but for another reason they also repaced the turbo modulator for the variable pressure on the turb and guess what I still have problems with it sticking at 88mph I know its better than the rest of you guys but I feel eventually its gonna fail, espacially when I know it can do more when I first brought it I ran out of revs on the m27 and was well impressed! thought it could do with a 6 gear!
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88mph = flux capacitor....

Now that is a custom Freelander!!
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