Folding mirror problem

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I have a 54, TD4 HSE facelift model with the powerfold mirrors.

The drivers mirror has developed a fault, whereby when I fold it shut, once it's in the folded position, instead of stopping, the motor continues to cycle for several seconds, with the mirror "clicking" before it stops? It opens fine and only occurs when closing. Any ideas as to what this might be? A friend suggested a relay? If this is the problem, where is it situated and would it show any outward signs of being faulty? Thanks.:crutch:
 
topdog1456 said:
I have a 54, TD4 HSE facelift model with the powerfold mirrors.

The drivers mirror has developed a fault, whereby when I fold it shut, once it's in the folded position, instead of stopping, the motor continues to cycle for several seconds, with the mirror "clicking" before it stops? It opens fine and only occurs when closing. Any ideas as to what this might be? A friend suggested a relay? If this is the problem, where is it situated and would it show any outward signs of being faulty? Thanks.:crutch:
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hi mate glad to here its not only me its happening to did you ever sort the problem out
 
thanks guys wonder if i could put a chunk of rubber on the mirror to make it stop sooner if the gears are ok in the point it stops it may not keep clicking just a thought
 
Had this fault on both my mirrors, They can be repaired.
1 Remove internal door car and speaker grill.
2 Unplug the two cables from the mirror sockets
3 Remove mirror 3 x torx bolts and 1 x philips screw.
4 Pop out round disc cover from mirror housing.
5 free cables from sealent and remove mirror from housing.
5 Mark the end cap of the mirror motor assy to main body.
6 remove 4 x torx screws from end cover
7 remove motor assy from housing
8 remove motor from end cap and you will find that one locating pin is sheared off, this is what casuses the banginf noise.
9 Now for the fix, remove sheared pin from locating hole.
10 Drill this hole out to 3mm.
11 Place motor assy back onto end cover, location via the other locating pin, while holding in the correct position drill from the end plate side a 3mm hole into the motor steel cover. ie where the locating pin use to be.
12 Using a suitable self tapper screw secure the motor into position, screw from the end cap into the steel motor housing.
13 the screw must be vertually flush withthe motor cover to ensure correct assembly.
14 rebuild mirror and refit.

I have repaired both my door mirrors with this method and they are still working OK, after one year.
 
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johnfreelander said:
Had this fault on both my mirrors, They can be repaired.
1 Remove internal door car and speaker grill.
2 Unplug the two cables from the mirror sockets
3 Remove mirror 3 x torx bolts and 1 x philips screw.
4 Pop out round disc cover from mirror housing.
5 free cables from sealent and remove mirror from housing.
5 Mark the end cap of the mirror motor assy to main body.
6 remove 4 x torx screws from end cover
7 remove motor assy from housing
8 remove motor from end cap and you will find that one locating pin is sheared off, this is what casuses the banginf noise.
9 Now for the fix, remove sheared pin from locating hole.
10 Drill this hole out to 3mm.
11 Place motor assy back onto end cover, location via the other locating pin, while holding in the correct position drill from the end plate side a 3mm hole into the motor steel cover. ie where the locating pin use to be.
12 Using a suitable self tapper screw secure the motor into position, screw from the end cap into the steel motor housing.
13 the screw must be vertually flush withthe motor cover to ensure correct assembly.
14 rebuild mirror and refit.

I have repaired both my door mirrors with this method and they are still working OK, after one year.
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Me too, both mirrors faulty, pleased to find this thread and to know these things are fixable...Will give me something to do,I love messing about in the garage anyway, nice to have a job where you can stand up and not get dirty... well not very dirty anyway...:D
 
Johnfreelanders fix works a treat.I took the motors apart and found that one of the tiny locating pins on the cast alloy motor body had snapped off. This meant that the small amount of movement this allowed between the body and the motor base caused the internal gear to skip on the worm drive - hence the banging when the mirror reached the end of its travel. I drilled a tiny hole where the pin should have been and a matching hole in the plastic motor base. I then used a tiny nut and bolt to fasten them together and the result is perfectly working powerfold mirrors.
 
I've just had one of mine in pieces, couldn't see any broken pins. Do you have to delve into the motor itself? Since putting it all back on it seems to be ok now, but other than taking it off, removing the motor, without opening it and putting it all back on I've done no repairing/ bodge!
 
Riverside said:
I've just had one of mine in pieces, couldn't see any broken pins. Do you have to delve into the motor itself? Since putting it all back on it seems to be ok now, but other than taking it off, removing the motor, without opening it and putting it all back on I've done no repairing/ bodge!
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You might be lucky in that you have "fixed" it inadvertently when you had it apart and reassembled it with eveything in its correct place. The locating pins referred to are in the motor body and locate in to the plastic motor base. There are two of these pins and they can only be seen with the base removed ( 4 small torx screw if memory serves).The motor body is made of a metal like a die cast alloy similar to that used to make toy cars so not very strong. It should be strong enough in normal use though but if some lout or loutess barges past your car against your mirror when it is parked at the supermarket I could imagine they might easily break. I suspect that in some cases mirrors have been pushed out of their normal range of travel without breaking anything and in such circumstances all they might need is dismantling and reassembling - putting eveything back where it is supposed to be, who knows??
 
Both of mine have stopped working for no apparent reason recently. They do not make any noises so I assumed it was switch /relay/ ccu problem. Will start looking at it when I get time.

Very useful info. I have printed it off for later , otherwise i will never find it again. Thanks.
 
Neither of my power folding mirrors work at all on the motor, I could cope with this, however now they start to fold in on their own, (either through the doors being slammed and moving them or even just while I'm driving the car).
As you can imagine this is exceedingly frustrating, is there anything I can do to tighten up the housing to stop this happening? I am reluctant to buy new mirrors as they seem to be about £200 each, £400 before anyone even starts work on the car is an awful lot of money.
Any suggestions at all would be useful, the passenger side has a screw through the housing to hold it in place, the drivers side I have to wind the window down and push it back into place at the moment.
I am reluctant to try 2nd hand mirrors which although cheaper may develop the same fault faster then new ones would
Thanks
 
I've done both of my mirrors now. Both pins were broken in each case. I have repaired using a slightly different method to described.
1) Once you've removed the motor base plate, you'll see the broken pins. Drill these out from whichever side works, 3 or 4 mm drill.
2) Put the motor base back on the main housing and carefully drill a 3 or 4 mm hole through the baseplate holes into the motor housing. Don't go too far, 2 or 3 mms.
3) Remove base again, clear all swarf and de grease area round new holes. Make two pins from 3 or 4mm rod, locate motor base, push home new rods into holes and glue in with Araldite.
4) Test motor on car before refitting to into mirror unit, 2 pin plug, yellow/blue wires.
5) Rebuild mirror.
6) Min £160 saved!
Cheers, Bill
 
Sorry for reviving this thread but I have had the same problem with both my power fold mirrors. So today I decided to have a go at the repair as suggested on this thread, took the p/s mirror off and followed the instructions. I removed the bottom motor plate expecting to see the locating pins broken off but both mine were still there and to be honest I can't see a problem if they were broken off as the motor base plate is held in place by four screws anyway. Has anybody else tried this repair and been succesful or am I missing something.

I have attached a couple of photos of my motor, apologies for the poor picture quality.
 

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Ok looking at this again I take it the pin is located between the motor and bottom motor cover so I need to take the motor away from the bottom cover to expose the area where the gearing is housed, is that correct :(:doh::frusty:
 
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