Running a disco 2 td5 on biodiesel

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gavlandy

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I have been doing some research about the possibility of running my disco on biodiesel after the most recent tank of diesel from my local supermarket costing me £95.00!!!!! I thought I might give you this website to have a look at seeing as they seem to think it won't be a problem in any vehicle made between 1990-2004. I can see why manufactures wont recommend it just to cover their own arses for warranties, although a few German ones are now. It seem a lot of talk on websites and forums (like this one) is second hand and Chinese whispers about what damage can be done to the engine. I can't say I have seen a post on here FROM someone that has used the stuff and had problems. And before you all post your comments, I am talking about the stuff that is quality assured and from a fuel dealer rather than home brew.:D

Biodiesel Approval
 
There's an approved bio-diesel seller in Bradford, but after recently contacting them before going to full up, the guy told me they don't sell it until the warmer months as it causes problems.
 
if your talking about the Morrisons Bio 30 stuff, my TD5 didnt like it at all, at low speeds on a cold engine it was Kangaroo juice!
 
with injectors @£200 each ive never ventured into the bio world ...
exactly why i havn't touched it. we used to use it in our work vehicles untill it made injector pumps leak on both pumps and ruined the injectors. they have been fine on diesel so thats what i'll stick with.
 
After looking around in my area it seems that nobody stocks it anyway. The most likely candidate had gone bust 2 years ago! Stuck with paying extortionate prices for fuel i suppose:doh:
 
I've run my Disco 2 TD5 on and off of Biodiesel for a couple of months and clocked up about 2000 miles on it. Reading through posts its the viscosity of the oil that knackers up pumps and injectors. I've therefore fitted an electric fuel heater and add an anti waxing agent to my biodiesel. No noticeable problems so far :)
 
There is a guy that i know. he sell it and also delivers it too. He is in southport lancashire, but i'm sure he would deliver across the country. If you want i can find out what you need to know
 
Before you put commercial bio in your tank,be very careful that it is up to std.There is a lot of poorly made commercial fuel out there.I brew my own and am very particular over the quality,and have no problems,my 300 tdi is the 4th diesel; engine I have run without issue on homebrew.
Is the td5 engine a common rail?If so these can be the fussiest of the lot with low quality fuel-If not common rail,in principle it should be fine,on good quality bio.
 
if you buy from a retailer, it would be mega bucks !, we are running our td5 at 70% bio diesel which i produce my self in the garden :D, no but its good stuff, would really recomend producing your own, they love running on bio we averaged about 40mpg on the motor way the other day ! gives more power and quiter running less knocking, even better if you remove egr valve so your not circulating NO gases, oh and dont add **** like petrol/ white spirit to it !
 
Hi, I have just been looking into the Bio Diesel options myself, and came accross a brilliant post on landyzone in 2009 by a chap called "charlesY"
The date of his post was 5th Feb 2009. The post goes on for more than 5 pages, and they are packed full with all of the questions and answers relating to Bio. By now 2/3 years later, the users who posted then, and who claimed to be using Bio should be able to give some fairly conclusive answers relating to reliability/runnung problems or advantages on 200/TD5/300etc (providing that they are still in the forum). some of the user names are "lightning"Trewey"Sean"Paul D".

I am quite new to the forum, and I do not recognise these names, but if you can cross ref any of them, the post makes brilliant reading. charlesY definately seems to know his stuff.

Hope this helps

Also, I know it is a bit of an arse about face way of doing things, but I used the link below to originally find the landyzone forum and the post mentioned above.

Adding 2 stroke oil to diesel fuel - The Land Rover Blog

Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil? Land Rover Zone > Land Rover Talk > Defender 90 / 110 / 130 Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil?

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Re: Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil?
Oil is oil.

your diesel engine hardly cares what sort of fuel it gets as long as it is OILY, and the viscosity is about right.

Old engine oil cut (thinned) with kerosene is fine, but try to filter it first.

If the viscosity (thickness) it too high, it may over-pressurise inside the injection pump and damage things.

You guys with older diesel Landies could be running on free fuel if you work out the knack of old oils, filtering and viscosity, and you will find then performance is good too.

CharlesY

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Re: Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil?
Oil is oil.

your diesel engine hardly cares what sort of fuel it gets as long as it is OILY, and the viscosity is about right.

Old engine oil cut (thinned) with kerosene is fine, but try to filter it first.

If the viscosity (thickness) it too high, it may over-pressurise inside the injection pump and damage things.

You guys with older diesel Landies could be running on free fuel if you work out the knack of old oils, filtering and viscosity, and you will find then performance is good too.

CharlesY
 
excellent, he is right , i wonder where you would get kerosene from other than heating oil ? rapeseed is probably best
 
so i guess water WMO down with petrol, i have never run engine oil , but have been doing bio business for a few years now
 
Personally I think anyone who considers running wmo,either doesn't know what they are doing,or doesn't care what happens to their engine.There are a lot of metal particles and other junk in wmo including acid components,just right for destroying injectors and high pressure pumps,and as for the emissions it doesn't bear thinking about.
 
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