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Old 26th-January-2011, 10:17
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Oh Hai
I started a thread earlier about my current situation in the general land rover chat section. Unfortunately (though understandably) this has turned into a "have a moan about the LEZ thread", so I am going to post here. Basically, I have to move to surrey, and am going to need a daily driver to take me 200+ motorway miles every week. For this reason, my broken 110 won't do. There will be also some mild off roading to do when I get to my destination (mostly very muddy building sites etc, so won't take my jaguar.) I also go off roading every weekend (nothing that would stop a defender, but lots of mud and bumper height water). Anyway, the budget is 10k, and currently I'm looking at a late series 1 or earlyish discovery 2. Do earlier D2s have the same td5 "teething problems" as the early td5 defenders did? My main concern is regarding water messing with the D2's extra electronics. Does this happen? I will of course fit a snorkel, and maybe a lift if needed. Another concern is reliability. Are D2s more reliable than a late D1?
P.S. I it true that if I buy a pre facelift D2, I will have to "connect" the centre diff lock unless this has been already done? And if I buy a post facelift one, I will have to buy a CDL unit, unless this was specified at purchase?
Anyway, thanks in advance.

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Old 26th-January-2011, 10:29
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Default Re: Discovery series 1 or 2?

I wanted a D2 but didn't have a D2 budget.
Had my D1 since Oct last year and very happy with it. I'm not looking to sell it but if you have 10K I have a D1 for sale

Good luck with your search
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Old 26th-January-2011, 10:34
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10k is about max, but I probably won't be spending that much, especially on a D1!
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Old 26th-January-2011, 10:36
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Oh, and it must be manual!
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Old 26th-January-2011, 10:44
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Oh Hai
I started a thread earlier about my current situation in the general land rover chat section. Unfortunately (though understandably) this has turned into a "have a moan about the LEZ thread", so I am going to post here. Basically, I have to move to surrey, and am going to need a daily driver to take me 200+ motorway miles every week. For this reason, my broken 110 won't do. There will be also some mild off roading to do when I get to my destination (mostly very muddy building sites etc, so won't take my jaguar.) I also go off roading every weekend (nothing that would stop a defender, but lots of mud and bumper height water). Anyway, the budget is 10k, and currently I'm looking at a late series 1 or earlyish discovery 2. Do earlier D2s have the same td5 "teething problems" as the early td5 defenders did? My main concern is regarding water messing with the D2's extra electronics. Does this happen? I will of course fit a snorkel, and maybe a lift if needed. Another concern is reliability. Are D2s more reliable than a late D1?
P.S. I it true that if I buy a pre facelift D2, I will have to "connect" the centre diff lock unless this has been already done? And if I buy a post facelift one, I will have to buy a CDL unit, unless this was specified at purchase?
Anyway, thanks in advance.
Hi CB, if you are going to do a lot of road miles there is no question in my mind - D2 all the way. D1's are great - I have 2!! but D2 TD5 is a far more refined everyday vehicle.

So D2 then. First question auto or manual - this is a matter of personal preference. Auto's for your motorway work will be fine, however if it was in-town driving all day, maybe a manual would be better. Autos are only slightly heavier on fuel and on your motorway runs you wouldn't notice. D2 TD5 will cruise all day with reasonable economy at 70mph - if you push them more mpg rises significantly due to the lack of aerodynamics.

Any early TD5 teething problems will be out of the way by now and taking into account your budget of 10k, I would be going straight for a facelift car like a 2003/4 ES auto.

These cars are great as std but can be improved noticeably with a few cheap modifications. De-EGR, DE-cat and a remap will turn a 2003 car into a sublime cruiser. Obviously they are all competent for off-road work, with the right tyres.

Re off-roading and the cars' competence - all cars have Traction Control which works remarkably well if the car is fitted with AT's or MT's. I personaly do not see the need for a CDL and have off-roaded significantly with a number of TD5's without CDL. Electronics when off-roading are not a problem in my experience.

If you go for a facelift car, CDL can be retrofitted in any case, if it's not already specified.

My advice is to drive some cars - buy carefully as prices are historically at the moment and if you pay full price now you will lose a bundle when you change down the line and 4x4's fall from grace.

Good hunting

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Old 26th-January-2011, 11:26
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For what its worth I agree with Dave. You can get a good D2 well within that budget (my 2000 model cost 4200 last year) that has been used as a family car and then spend the rest of the budget on off road `mods/goodies' - for some ideas on useful mods have a look at Urban Panzers very useful and informative web page:

www.discovery2.co.uk

And yes - you will have to connect the Difflock (180) IF its in the transfer box (it is on most pre-facelift models) though you will probably have to install the mechanism into the transfer box on a `facelift model' (an additional 250 - get it from Ashcroft transmissions http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co...ewCat&catId=72). Only the high spec 2004 models had difflock fitted by LR. For info on the difflock have a look at
http://www.discoverytd5.com/#/diff-lock/4546796217
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http://www.discovery2.co.uk/diff_lock.html

Hope this helps.

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Old 26th-January-2011, 11:30
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Agree with thebiglad
I myself have a 2000 TD5 ES Auto, and I now think why I didn't go auto before,
Offroad Amazing well mine is since i brought it in april and it is on the Michelins Lattitude Road tyre, I have offroaded it several times Furthes so far was the site in Aldermaston and i 3 quarters of the site on road tyres
going to the site and going had my caravan on the back a small van,

tows so well that you nearly forget you have the van on the back,
that week end cost about Fuel 70 350 miles i think that included driving around the offroad site, probly could of got a bit more out of it if the car was cleaned and i had taken every thing out the boot
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Old 26th-January-2011, 12:04
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Hi.

I think.....

D2 for niceness, D1 one for everyday fixability........Auto D2 is what i have, manuals ure unrefined and chore-like around town (imo) and to be fair with the way petrol and diesel is going they are both crap in terms of mileage for money so i would buy the easiest to drive........If you buy a D2 get the software....worth every penny, i bought Faultmate.

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Old 26th-January-2011, 12:46
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Thanks very much for your replies.

So, assuming I did get a D2, would I be better off with one without air suspension? Do they go wrong like the p38 range rover suspension? And should I get one with loads of toys, or a more simple one?
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Old 26th-January-2011, 13:04
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I'd see whats on the market and make a comparison. A straight family car may well be in better condition than one used for off-roading but with lots of goodies. Air suspension is not a problem IF you treat it as consisting of servicable items and you will get a better ride with it. If you go for the 7 seater then you may well be better off with the SLS because of type approval.
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