Alarm Issues

Hi guys,

Fantastic forum full of fantastic info, however I have been struggling to find info regarding my exact problem.

I have bought a '94 200 TDi. Unfortunately only one key and no fobs.

The door locks are moving about 5 degrees either side of vertical then no more. This I am imagining is a lock issue but it is happening on both sides and the boot lock is just useless anyway but does still lock with central locking when you depress a button.

So onto my main problem. I took it to town for the first time and as such was the first time I went about locking the doors (living in the middle of nowhere is great). Upon discovering the locks didn't work I depressed a door button and closed the door without thinking how I was going to get back in.

Turns out the rear left door doesn't lock. Thank goodness. So I got in, unlocked the doors again from the inside and when I went to start it the hazards began flashing and horn doing it's thing also. 5 mins went by before disconnecting the horn to save my sanity.

Anyway, the disco is still in town and I am unable to get it to start or drive, the alarm/immobiliser appears to have done it's job for the first time since 1997 (warranty ran out then) and as such I'm stuck without the vehicle.

With only one key and no alarm fob what do you suggest I do to allow me to get my disco back home and running again.

Thanks in advance.

Pete.

Aa?

wd40 the locks?

by that I mean you need to unlock the car from the drivers door to disarm the alarm/immob.

barmatt said:

wd40 the locks?

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Have done that, got plenty in there, then tried working the lock for 15 mins or so whilst shooting the odd spray in there and still no joy.

Mechanical wise I'm fairly handy as I restore MG's and other vintage cars, but electrics is my big downfall and even more so the black magic involved in alarms.

I tried various opening/ closing of doors, locking and unlocking of doors and circulation of key in the ignition. I could get the alarm to stop sounding, but 3 hours of trying had me beat.

I disconnected the battery, pressed the brake pedal to drain any charge in the car, in the hope it would reset any ECU's and still no better off.

As for the AA comment, that's like a huge kick in the teeth telling you you have failed in every way as a man to maintain the ability to travel, engineer and survive on your own. Plus in Northern Ireland the AA are atrocious, RAC provide a much better service but I don't want to resort to that.

just get it towed home then you can spend as long as you want sorting the locks out.

barmatt said:

just get it towed home then you can spend as long as you want sorting the locks out.

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I will get it home somehow.

From what I have read though I am coming to the conclusion that even if the locks worked it would only ever disable the sensors inside the car, not help with the main problem being that the alarm has demobilised the disco.

Would it be worthwhile getting a fob and programming it to the car, or is that not going to work until I am able to disengage the alarm?

yes - but there are several different frequency key fobs - yu need the right one.

PeteMoore said:

I will get it home somehow.

From what I have read though I am coming to the conclusion that even if the locks worked it would only ever disable the sensors inside the car, not help with the main problem being that the alarm has demobilised the disco.

Would it be worthwhile getting a fob and programming it to the car, or is that not going to work until I am able to disengage the alarm?

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It depends if it originally had a fob, my '93 doesn't it all works off the key.

The Mad Hat Man said:

yes - but there are several different frequency key fobs - yu need the right one.

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Ah bo**ocks.

Is there any way to tell which one I need or is this a visit to the local specialist and hope he has a selection and bring back whatever doesn't work?

barmatt said:

It depends if it originally had a fob, my '93 doesn't it all works off the key.

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My key is the same hinged one that I used to have in my metro years ago.

Is there a way of telling whether or not a fob would have been used originally.

At that age, it is likely to be a single button key fob. Best place to look is fleabay.

PeteMoore said:

My key is the same hinged one that I used to have in my metro years ago.

Is there a way of telling whether or not a fob would have been used originally.

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dunno mate, not sure how you would tell if it had a fob or not. It's getting late for answers from others anorl.


p.s. you can say bollocks round here if ya like,(you don't have to **) we won't tell.

The Mad Hat Man said:

At that age, it is likely to be a single button key fob. Best place to look is fleabay.

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418Mhz

Is/are there other frequencies for the single button fobs?

mite be worth reading this.... http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f8/lost-keys-fob-discovery-1-a-89549.html

PeteMoore said:

418Mhz

Is/are there other frequencies for the single button fobs?

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Aint there at least two?

barmatt said:

dunno mate, not sure how you would tell if it had a fob or not. It's getting late for answers from others anorl.


p.s. you can say bollocks round here if ya like,(you don't have to **) we won't tell.

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Awesome. Bollocks it is.

I've only owned the bloody thing since 4pm this evening, so not having a great day. However working with and owning classics give you a calmness that it will all work itself out in the wash.

I'm thinking if there is any way of just getting rid of the alarm completely! Not like the thing locks anyway. Lol.

I'm lead to believe the black/purple wire at the starter solenoid could be snipped and ground out, however I haven't looked at a diagram so I am reluctant to start snipping randomly in the hope that something works.

I also disconnected everything in the drivers footwell and reconnected it to no avail.

Thanks for the help so far guys.

duz it have a spider?


why dont yu ask the last owner?

The Mad Hat Man said:

mite be worth reading this.... http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f8/lost-keys-fob-discovery-1-a-89549.html

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Not really unfortunately.

My locks won't allow me to enter an EKA, and I'm not replacing them just yet.

I'm preferring the second hand ecu and fob idea, but go knows what costs are involved with that.

Ideally I'd just like no alarm issues ever, so may just get a trusty spark out to work some magic on it, we shall see.

Bit of a poor start to landy ownership, but I'm not put off just yet, in between towing the competition cars, carrying tools and taking the dog out I think I may begin exploring the mourne mountains and dromara hills that are all within a half hour drive of home which would be nice.

The Mad Hat Man said:

duz it have a spider?


why dont yu ask the last owner?

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I believe it does, I got told a hairdryer was the cure for non starting on cold mornings. Aside from that it seems to be one of those items to add to the list of crap to remove along with the cat, egr and whatever else I can find whilst I'm at it.

He only had it a month for the snow and knew feck all squared about the motor.

May try the owner previous to him, but I very much doubt anything will come of that.

tiz a moot point - but if it dont have an eka code then it wont have an ECU, Shirley?
it is either a single button fob with (possibly) a spider - or a 2 button fob with ECU and an EKA code.

This is right - int it?