Diesel additive, 2-stroke oil?

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Wow ... I had a look at the internet and found that this spark erosion fluid is for all the world the same thing as transformer oil, and very much like diesel fuel. I am quite sure a decent diesel engine wouldn't know the difference between this stuff and diesel, but once again I would say to check the viscosity - thickness - of the oil against standard diesel.
Funny you should mention this because he has to sign a declaration when he has new deliveries stating that he will not use it as a motor fuel. I dont know why because nobody in their right mind would use it fresh because it costs more than £20 per litre.
I spoke to the boss at my local toolmakers and he says that they have more than 200 litres of this used "fluid" to get rid of every month. Thats just one operation running out of a small workshop with four spark eroders running virtually continuously. He has been paying £50 per standard 55 gallon oil drum to have it taken away and took my arm off when asked if I could have it for nothing. He also gave me the names of several local "plastics injection moulding" firms who have used hydraulic oil to get rid of.
Right at the end they refer to paper filtration, which is very good news for you! If there was a lot of this oil available I think I would be VERY interested. Hydraulics people, two filters and a wee pump you can rig up to an electric motor. Pump through 25 and 10 micron filters, and see what you end up with. It could be a whole lot of very nice fuel oil.

CharlesY
I'm going to get some decent filters and build a pumped filtration and storage system as I can see this being a winner. I have the old 1200 litre domestic oil tank to store the unfiltered stuff in and my local Polish car washing place has a whole heap of stackable 20 litre plastic detergent drums which I'm going to try and aquire to keep the filtered stuff in. I reckon for less than £100 I can build a decent capacity fitration rig at the back of my garage. Next job is to find a hydraulics suplier for the filters etc.
I know the used hydraulic oil works well as fuel so time to bite the bullet and speculate to accumulate.
A quick check shows at least ten similar firms within a five mile radius of my home. I'll be paying them a visit in the very near future.
 
Funny you should mention this because he has to sign a declaration when he has new deliveries stating that he will not use it as a motor fuel. I dont know why because nobody in their right mind would use it fresh because it costs more than £20 per litre.
I spoke to the boss at my local toolmakers and he says that they have more than 200 litres of this used "fluid" to get rid of every month.
Gerra bowser!
 
Gerra bowser!

I got a doozil Bowser for sale. Dunno what capacity it is, but the tank is about 4ft diameter and 6ft long. Mounted on a trailer with a Military style coupling.

£100 collected from SE Cornwall.
It will need to be trailered away, because the tyres are perished.
 
I got a doozil Bowser for sale. Dunno what capacity it is, but the tank is about 4ft diameter and 6ft long. Mounted on a trailer with a Military style coupling.

£100 collected from SE Cornwall.
It will need to be trailered away, because the tyres are perished.


Hmmmm ... volume formula .... length times cross-sectional area.

Area = Pi x 2 x 2 x 6 feet long in cubic feet .... 75 cubic feet then .. and six and a quarter gallons to a cubic foot .... so that's 468 gallons, so the tank is probably a 500 imperial gallon job or 2,000 litres. Either way it's a two ton trailer and a bit when filled.

Sounds like just the job!

CharlesY
 
I got a doozil Bowser for sale. Dunno what capacity it is, but the tank is about 4ft diameter and 6ft long. Mounted on a trailer with a Military style coupling.

£100 collected from SE Cornwall.
It will need to be trailered away, because the tyres are perished.

Bout 2000 ltr then
4' x 6' = 75.43 cubic feet
1 cubic foot = 28.31685 litres x 75.43 = 2153litres.
 
What are the wheel stud spacings - PCD - ?

maybe Landy Wheels and tyres would fit?

Do the wheels turn?

It's only a 1,300 mile round trip from here.

CharlesY



CharlesY

Dunno.
I could have a look and take some measurements and piccies if someone's really interested.
It hasn't moved for 5 years to my knowledge, so I'm not sure about wheel bearings and brakes either.
It's solid though.
 
Been following this thread with much interest as a good source of used oil is available:) There has been the odd reference to the injection pump being a possible problem, any thoughts on the 19j's pump suitability?
Otherwise, I've already nabbed a new 240l weelie bin for my "stock":D:D
 
Been following this thread with much interest as a good source of used oil is available:) There has been the odd reference to the injection pump being a possible problem, any thoughts on the 19j's pump suitability?
Otherwise, I've already nabbed a new 240l weelie bin for my "stock":D:D
As CharlesY has already said it is the viscosity of the oil that is important.
So long as it is similar to pump diesel it wont be a problem.
Thats why you have to "cut" it with kero or petrol to thin it down.
If you thin it before filtering it makes things easier.
Not sure I'd be happy with a mixture of oil and petrol in a wheelie bin though.
 
My TD5 Disco is on 60,000 miles plus, and more than half of that has been in home made biodiesel.

I hadn't noticed that it won't run on this fuel.

Thanks for telling me.

CharlesY

PS - do you believe every old wife's tale? WHY will a "TD5 not run on bio-fuel"?

Before Land Rover, or any manufacturer, can state that an engine will run on a particular fuel they need to do thousands (millions?) of miles of testing to ensure it will not do any harm. In order to ensure they will not suffer legal claims years down the line, it's easier for them to state it will not.
 
Before Land Rover, or any manufacturer, can state that an engine will run on a particular fuel they need to do thousands (millions?) of miles of testing to ensure it will not do any harm. In order to ensure they will not suffer legal claims years down the line, it's easier for them to state it will not.

I wish I had written that.

You should have seen the Disco TD5 running on lube oil from a cardboard box cutting machine. We had to thin it down, but the words "Rocket" and "Fuel" were used.

Amazing.

CharlesY
 
Hi,
Anyone had any experience of paraffin/Diesel mix in a TD5? Been watching this thread and as a result am now running on used engine oil mix. May be able to get lots of 'free' paraffin. I have looked at the MSDSs and they are almost identical.
Anyone tried it?
Cheers Mike.
 
Hi,
Anyone had any experience of paraffin/Diesel mix in a TD5? Been watching this thread and as a result am now running on used engine oil mix. May be able to get lots of 'free' paraffin. I have looked at the MSDSs and they are almost identical.
Anyone tried it?
Cheers Mike.

You must NOT use paraffin aka kerosine aka 28 seconds heating oil as a ROAD FUEL.

However, I don't know what the law says about using it as a THINNING AGENT.

And yes, pretty well most of us have tried it .... and it works just dandy.

CharlesY
 
Hi,
Anyone had any experience of paraffin/Diesel mix in a TD5? Been watching this thread and as a result am now running on used engine oil mix. May be able to get lots of 'free' paraffin. I have looked at the MSDSs and they are almost identical.
Anyone tried it?
Cheers Mike.
It works just fine but if you get dipped by the revenue you'll have a big problem explaining why it is in your tank. It will cost you a fine and you may loose your motor.
Where I live in rural Surrey they are actively dipping ALL diesel motors, not just commercials and 4x4s, and they are doing it in the most unlikely of places.
I got dipped in my local DIY store carpark and they have set up a few times in Sainsburys car park as well. I know one mum who got dipped outside her kids school on the school run ffs.
 
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