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Some do sit to high..my mate bought a set of Rock Mountains...sat so high the pro shaft was at full stretch...other cheap types Imported sit low.

GB Springs which I have had for many year are maybe 1 inch higher on the back and about std on the front.

My mate who had the RM paras fitted GBs after looking at mine...he is well impressed.

Multis alway start sagging...I have had my S3 from new...I can still remember how the back end started sinking after a few years...I even used to take em off and re profile them...just so glad when paras became available.
Trouble is, this just ins't all that helpful. Rocky Mountain sell 2, 3 and 4 leaf springs.

Depending on how much a specific rig weighs, then yes, it will appear to lift it more. If you fit 4 leaf on an 88 pickup, then it'll be over stiff, ride badly and sit way too high.
 
Well, that only took an hour and a half.....

Some pics of Nicks S.3 on 10 year old GB Springs parabolics and standard shocks/ brake lines. looks like 2 leaf front and 3 leaf rears? is a petrol, isnt it?


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It still looks to tall, but then my 10 year old multi-leaf rear springs were almost flat after this time. I do load the vehicle up a lot and having it almost sat on it's rear bump stops is not at all uncommon, I'm sure this doesn't help. I wonder just how well para's stand up to this abuse?

For me I've yet to try a series fitted with Para's that felt any better than my standard set-up. I'm not saying this isn't possible, but if I wanted a modern ride I'd have bought a Defender. For towing or carrying heavy loads an air-suspension Discovery is hard to beat.
 
Sounds like you've been working yours harder than i will be mine!







i'm just after some good quality springs that arent going to flat in 5 mins, but also arent going to sit too high upsetting the brakes lines/ shocks which i've already bought replacements. Ideally they arent going to cost the earth either. GB Springs are looking oretty good at the mo, subject to their quote being reasonable. im struggling to even find new multileafs you'd actually risk buying. 😡
 
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It looks like GB springs can supply standard and para's. I'll be interested to hear what they quote you for a set, and if you buy them how they feel on the road compared to your standard set-up, and if they give lift or are the correct ride height..
 
I've had a long response from GB.S. it looks like a standard copy/paste affair but there is some interesting info and opinion in there. I'll copy over once I've worked out how to on phone, but the gist is 320 all in... Springs, u bolts, nuts, vat and delivery. Can't argue tbh, I have a quote of 400 for some unknown manufacturer multileafs without the fitting hardware, collected.

Edit: excuse me , also includes normal bolts and nuts, and metallastic bushes.
 
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This is the email in full. I hope it's not wrong to post publicly. It's an quote to a completely unconnected third party (ie me) so assume it's the going rate.

I'm sold. :)

For your applications the prices we would quote are as follows:

For a SWB Land Rover Series II or III vehicle, we offer a two-leaf front and a three-leaf rear spring (true three leaf spring not a 2+1 spring with a loose helper) - £320.00. The kit includes the springs (handed and clearly marked Off side and Near side), "U" bolts + nuts, eye bolts + nuts and rubber to metal bonded bushes (standard Landrover sizes). In some instances the leaning issues comes from springs not being handed. The load capacity for the two leaf fronts is 930kg per axle and for our three leaf rears is 1190kgs per axle. We do not recommend fitting two leaf front and two leaf rear springs since in our experience they have caused problems if any reasonable load is carried in the back of the vehicle. In our experience with a standard set up these springs should not raise the vehicle more than 1" at most.

Our packages are available ex stock and are quoted inclusive of UK VAT (at 20%) and include 2-3 day carrier delivery to addresses in England.

If you compare like with like then I think you will find our pricing for Land Rover parabolic springs to be the very competitive, but if you want to give us a ring then we can discuss any other issues you may want to bring up.

For your information we do not sell shock absorbers but we would offer the following advice:- If your driving is mainly on Highway with the occasional sorties off road, but even then the off road work is at slow speeds over relatively minor undulations we believe you can get away with using ordinary shock absorbers.

The longer stroking shocks on the market are required for applications where the increased articulation possible through parabolic springs comes into play. Then it is possible that you can over stroke the standard shock and hence the need for a longer stoking shock.

Re the bigger bore shocks available. Here you only need the bigger bore for when the shock is being excited rapidly i.e.. Belgian Pave type work. That is in a normal size shock bore the oil starts to heat up when being excited in this way and ultimately starts to boil since it is impossible to loose the heat generated. As a result you can fit a larger bore shock to cope with higher driving speed driving for long distances over ground where the shock is very active (i.e. Off-road regularly and for long distances).

We also do not fit polybushes as we feel from our development work that they will not give a noticeable improvement in suspension performance, we will supply springs without bushes for you to fit your own polybushes. We do feel that whilst polybushes last longer than rubber to metal bonded bushes there is no such thing as a "free lunch", hence the forces that normally wear out the rubber to metal bonded bush must go somewhere and normally with poly bushes they go into the chassis and the chassis will show wear (i.e. Oval holes) at the linkage.

We hope you will buy GB Springs Parabolic's for your vehicle and look forward to hearing from you!!! Please contact us if we can be of assistance.
 
It still looks to tall, but then my 10 year old multi-leaf rear springs were almost flat after this time. I do load the vehicle up a lot and having it almost sat on it's rear bump stops is not at all uncommon, I'm sure this doesn't help. I wonder just how well para's stand up to this abuse?

For me I've yet to try a series fitted with Para's that felt any better than my standard set-up. I'm not saying this isn't possible, but if I wanted a modern ride I'd have bought a Defender. For towing or carrying heavy loads an air-suspension Discovery is hard to beat.

Seriously it doesn't look tall. But it is running 205's, which make the wheel arch gap look big. Put it on some 7.50's like it's supposed to be on ;) and it'd be right.
 
Sounds like you've been working yours harder than i will be mine!







i'm just after some good quality springs that arent going to flat in 5 mins, but also arent going to sit too high upsetting the brakes lines/ shocks which i've already bought replacements. Ideally they arent going to cost the earth either. GB Springs are looking oretty good at the mo, subject to their quote being reasonable. im struggling to even find new multileafs you'd actually risk buying. 😡

I think there is some misunderstanding going on here. Even if it sat higher, it should NOT affect brake lines or shocks. Think about it, shocks and brakes lines should work with the full travel of the axle, else it would be unsafe off road.
 
I'm not knocking GB springs, but that email is basically smoke and mirrors IMO.

All it says is buy our springs, but we don't stock shocks or bushes. Then some lame excuses why they don't stock the other parts.

BTW - if you want to increase the articulation, i.e. axle travel then parabolic springs will not do this on there own. You need a shock with a longer stroke length, which will require it being mounted differently.

Think about it. The axle cannot move further up than the full compression of the shock, nor can it drop any further than the extended length of the shock.

Series shocks are very short!
 
GB springs are a spring manufacturer thats all....why would they want to get involved selling shocks....they make springs for hundreds of different makes and types of vehicle.

I'm not saying they should. But as they only sell springs... they obviously aren't selling a complete package. And as they don't appear to recommend anything specific, you have to wonder how thorough their R&D actually has been.
 
I'm not knocking GB springs, but that email is basically smoke and mirrors IMO.

All it says is buy our springs, but we don't stock shocks or bushes. Then some lame excuses why they don't stock the other parts.

BTW - if you want to increase the articulation, i.e. axle travel then parabolic springs will not do this on there own. You need a shock with a longer stroke length, which will require it being mounted differently.

Think about it. The axle cannot move further up than the full compression of the shock, nor can it drop any further than the extended length of the shock.

Series shocks are very short!

Who said anything about wanting more axle articulation?
 
"you have to wonder how thorough their R&D actually has been"
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A whole lot more than the company that make the Indian imported types....

They are a very long established British company.
 
"you have to wonder how thorough their R&D actually has been"
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A whole lot more than the company that make the Indian imported types....

They are a very long established British company.
And that proves what exactly?


I'm not saying don't buy them, nor am I saying anything negative about them. But by the same measure I'm not drooling all over their products like some people in this thread.
 
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