and that is why we don't buy japanese scrap engines. and before you say it's
an american engine, the duraclacks engine used in the chebby and gmc is made
by Isuzu, a japanese company
<xblackoutx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161121195.591651.311300@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail and fill
> the motor with deisel fuel to the point where it was blowing out of the
> fill tube. The truck only has 80,000 miles on it. There is a GM service
> bulliten that was issued that says they have extended the warranty on
> the injectors to 200,000 miles and 10 years so the local dealer
> replaced them under warranty. I told them at that time I didn't think
> that running deisel fuel inside that motor had done it any good and
> that the whole motor was suspect in my opinion and was told that
> "deisel contains some oil so it won't damage anything". I got a whole
> 2144 miles before a bearing spun and now my motor is trashed and they
> are telling me that the area rep is denying my warranty coverage
> because the truck is out of the official 100,000 mile 5 year warranty
> by 9 months, even though the faulty injectors that caused the failure
> are warranteed for 200,000 miles or 10 years . My point is that the
> injector failure flooded the engine with solvent, basically, and washed
> all oil away from the contact areas which caused the failure and the
> mechanic who is working on it at the local dealership agrees with me
> completely. I'm looking at $15,600 to get it replaced. I was hoping for
> some expert opinions on the lubricating properties of deisel fuel as an
> oil substitute. I'm no expert but I suspect that deisel is not really
> acceptable as an engine lubricant, and I suspect that the oil pump
> would not pump it as the viscosity is so low. Any
> help/tips/advice/pointers towards anything printed that says DO NOT ADD
> DEISEL FUEL TO YOUR ENGINE, IT WILL DAMAGE IT would be greatly
> appreciated as the motor is torn apart as I type this and they are
> awaiting the new engine.
>
> P.S. I've been calling deisel mechanics all morning and I have gotten
> 100% confirmation that running your motor with deisel fuel in side of
> it washes the oil from the contact surfaces of the motor, no ifs ands
> or buts abou tit
>
> P.P.S. DURAMAX FUEL INJECTORS CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE UPDATE: Well, I just
> got off the phone with the GM Customer service people. They say that
> since the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty is expired by 9 months they will
> not warranty the motor even though it was RUINED by an injector failing
> and flooding the engine with deisel. The injectors are warranteed for
> 200,000 miles or 10 years because they are DEFECTIVE ( see
> http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax...orwarranty.htm ) and are
> going bad on a regular basis according to the local dealers duramax
> mechanic. I talked to this mechanic at length who took the engine out
> and HE AGREES WITH ME 100%. The mechanic told me that he has seen a
> bunch of these injector failures and every time an engine gets filled
> with deisel the trusks start coming in with low oil pressure readings
> and "it's only a matter of time before they FAIL". He has told me that
>
> That's right folks, A GM TRAINED DURAMAX MECHANIC HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
> SEES THESE FAILURES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT HE HAS TOLD THE AREA GM
> REP THAT THE ENGINES ARE FAILING AS A RESULT OF THE INJECTOR PROBLEM
> AND THAT GM IS REFUSING TO WARRANTY THE FAILED ENGINES.
>
> Let me re-state the facts here: my truck is a 2001 GMC 3500 with 80,000
> miles on it that only made it 2,144 miles AFTER THE ENGINE WAS FLOODED
> WITH FUEL THAT WASHED AWAY THE LUBRICANT before FAILING as a result of
> OIL BEING WASHED AWAY FROM THE BEARINGS. GM is refusing to honor the
> warranty on grounds that in their opinion THE OIL PUMP FAILED AT 80,000
> MILES which is unrelated to the flooding problem.
>
> If they are right, THAT'S EVEN WORSE NEWS FOR DURAMAX OWNERS. YOUR OIL
> PUMP COULD FAIL AT RANDOM AT 80,000 MILES AND GM WILL NOT STAND BEHIND
> IT.
>
> I suspect that eventually there will be a class action lawsuit that
> will force them to pay up on these failures but right now I'm SCREWED.
> I have a wife and 2 kids and make my living with the truck and now I'm
> looking at $15,600 for a replacement engine from GM that I'll have to
> throw on high interest credit cards if I want to be able to provide for
> my family. They have me by the b@lls here. I still owe $10K on the
> truck and now I'm looking at buying it again, basically, and I'm sick
> inside over it.
>
> Any helpful hints on how to proceed or any other forums you could
> suggest to post to will be appreciated, as well as any help in
> spreading the word. My only hope at this point is to somehow generate
> enough publicity that they agree to fix it.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help/time.
>

If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or injectors
which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil pan.
Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month. Change
the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to the
dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in is
more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I could
get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
real happy.
"Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:twlZg.524$18.404@newsfe10.lga...
> and that is why we don't buy japanese scrap engines. and before you say
> it's an american engine, the duraclacks engine used in the chebby and gmc
> is made by Isuzu, a japanese company
> <xblackoutx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161121195.591651.311300@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail and fill
>> the motor with deisel fuel to the point where it was blowing out of the
>> fill tube. The truck only has 80,000 miles on it. There is a GM service
>> bulliten that was issued that says they have extended the warranty on
>> the injectors to 200,000 miles and 10 years so the local dealer
>> replaced them under warranty. I told them at that time I didn't think
>> that running deisel fuel inside that motor had done it any good and
>> that the whole motor was suspect in my opinion and was told that
>> "deisel contains some oil so it won't damage anything". I got a whole
>> 2144 miles before a bearing spun and now my motor is trashed and they
>> are telling me that the area rep is denying my warranty coverage
>> because the truck is out of the official 100,000 mile 5 year warranty
>> by 9 months, even though the faulty injectors that caused the failure
>> are warranteed for 200,000 miles or 10 years . My point is that the
>> injector failure flooded the engine with solvent, basically, and washed
>> all oil away from the contact areas which caused the failure and the
>> mechanic who is working on it at the local dealership agrees with me
>> completely. I'm looking at $15,600 to get it replaced. I was hoping for
>> some expert opinions on the lubricating properties of deisel fuel as an
>> oil substitute. I'm no expert but I suspect that deisel is not really
>> acceptable as an engine lubricant, and I suspect that the oil pump
>> would not pump it as the viscosity is so low. Any
>> help/tips/advice/pointers towards anything printed that says DO NOT ADD
>> DEISEL FUEL TO YOUR ENGINE, IT WILL DAMAGE IT would be greatly
>> appreciated as the motor is torn apart as I type this and they are
>> awaiting the new engine.
>>
>> P.S. I've been calling deisel mechanics all morning and I have gotten
>> 100% confirmation that running your motor with deisel fuel in side of
>> it washes the oil from the contact surfaces of the motor, no ifs ands
>> or buts abou tit
>>
>> P.P.S. DURAMAX FUEL INJECTORS CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE UPDATE: Well, I just
>> got off the phone with the GM Customer service people. They say that
>> since the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty is expired by 9 months they will
>> not warranty the motor even though it was RUINED by an injector failing
>> and flooding the engine with deisel. The injectors are warranteed for
>> 200,000 miles or 10 years because they are DEFECTIVE ( see
>> http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax...orwarranty.htm ) and are
>> going bad on a regular basis according to the local dealers duramax
>> mechanic. I talked to this mechanic at length who took the engine out
>> and HE AGREES WITH ME 100%. The mechanic told me that he has seen a
>> bunch of these injector failures and every time an engine gets filled
>> with deisel the trusks start coming in with low oil pressure readings
>> and "it's only a matter of time before they FAIL". He has told me that
>>
>> That's right folks, A GM TRAINED DURAMAX MECHANIC HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
>> SEES THESE FAILURES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT HE HAS TOLD THE AREA GM
>> REP THAT THE ENGINES ARE FAILING AS A RESULT OF THE INJECTOR PROBLEM
>> AND THAT GM IS REFUSING TO WARRANTY THE FAILED ENGINES.
>>
>> Let me re-state the facts here: my truck is a 2001 GMC 3500 with 80,000
>> miles on it that only made it 2,144 miles AFTER THE ENGINE WAS FLOODED
>> WITH FUEL THAT WASHED AWAY THE LUBRICANT before FAILING as a result of
>> OIL BEING WASHED AWAY FROM THE BEARINGS. GM is refusing to honor the
>> warranty on grounds that in their opinion THE OIL PUMP FAILED AT 80,000
>> MILES which is unrelated to the flooding problem.
>>
>> If they are right, THAT'S EVEN WORSE NEWS FOR DURAMAX OWNERS. YOUR OIL
>> PUMP COULD FAIL AT RANDOM AT 80,000 MILES AND GM WILL NOT STAND BEHIND
>> IT.
>>
>> I suspect that eventually there will be a class action lawsuit that
>> will force them to pay up on these failures but right now I'm SCREWED.
>> I have a wife and 2 kids and make my living with the truck and now I'm
>> looking at $15,600 for a replacement engine from GM that I'll have to
>> throw on high interest credit cards if I want to be able to provide for
>> my family. They have me by the b@lls here. I still owe $10K on the
>> truck and now I'm looking at buying it again, basically, and I'm sick
>> inside over it.
>>
>> Any helpful hints on how to proceed or any other forums you could
>> suggest to post to will be appreciated, as well as any help in
>> spreading the word. My only hope at this point is to somehow generate
>> enough publicity that they agree to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help/time.
>>
>
>

"none2u" <none2u@notrealatall.bye> wrote in message
news:Er-dnb1JXIyEdqjYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@centurytel.net...
> If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
> I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or
> injectors which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil
> pan. Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month.
> Change the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to
> the dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in
> is more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I
> could get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
> injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
> real happy.

%%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.


> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:twlZg.524$18.404@newsfe10.lga...
>> and that is why we don't buy japanese scrap engines. and before you say
>> it's an american engine, the duraclacks engine used in the chebby and gmc
>> is made by Isuzu, a japanese company
>> <xblackoutx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161121195.591651.311300@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>>I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail and fill
>>> the motor with deisel fuel to the point where it was blowing out of the
>>> fill tube. The truck only has 80,000 miles on it. There is a GM service
>>> bulliten that was issued that says they have extended the warranty on
>>> the injectors to 200,000 miles and 10 years so the local dealer
>>> replaced them under warranty. I told them at that time I didn't think
>>> that running deisel fuel inside that motor had done it any good and
>>> that the whole motor was suspect in my opinion and was told that
>>> "deisel contains some oil so it won't damage anything". I got a whole
>>> 2144 miles before a bearing spun and now my motor is trashed and they
>>> are telling me that the area rep is denying my warranty coverage
>>> because the truck is out of the official 100,000 mile 5 year warranty
>>> by 9 months, even though the faulty injectors that caused the failure
>>> are warranteed for 200,000 miles or 10 years . My point is that the
>>> injector failure flooded the engine with solvent, basically, and washed
>>> all oil away from the contact areas which caused the failure and the
>>> mechanic who is working on it at the local dealership agrees with me
>>> completely. I'm looking at $15,600 to get it replaced. I was hoping for
>>> some expert opinions on the lubricating properties of deisel fuel as an
>>> oil substitute. I'm no expert but I suspect that deisel is not really
>>> acceptable as an engine lubricant, and I suspect that the oil pump
>>> would not pump it as the viscosity is so low. Any
>>> help/tips/advice/pointers towards anything printed that says DO NOT ADD
>>> DEISEL FUEL TO YOUR ENGINE, IT WILL DAMAGE IT would be greatly
>>> appreciated as the motor is torn apart as I type this and they are
>>> awaiting the new engine.
>>>
>>> P.S. I've been calling deisel mechanics all morning and I have gotten
>>> 100% confirmation that running your motor with deisel fuel in side of
>>> it washes the oil from the contact surfaces of the motor, no ifs ands
>>> or buts abou tit
>>>
>>> P.P.S. DURAMAX FUEL INJECTORS CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE UPDATE: Well, I just
>>> got off the phone with the GM Customer service people. They say that
>>> since the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty is expired by 9 months they will
>>> not warranty the motor even though it was RUINED by an injector failing
>>> and flooding the engine with deisel. The injectors are warranteed for
>>> 200,000 miles or 10 years because they are DEFECTIVE ( see
>>> http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax...orwarranty.htm ) and are
>>> going bad on a regular basis according to the local dealers duramax
>>> mechanic. I talked to this mechanic at length who took the engine out
>>> and HE AGREES WITH ME 100%. The mechanic told me that he has seen a
>>> bunch of these injector failures and every time an engine gets filled
>>> with deisel the trusks start coming in with low oil pressure readings
>>> and "it's only a matter of time before they FAIL". He has told me that
>>>
>>> That's right folks, A GM TRAINED DURAMAX MECHANIC HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
>>> SEES THESE FAILURES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT HE HAS TOLD THE AREA GM
>>> REP THAT THE ENGINES ARE FAILING AS A RESULT OF THE INJECTOR PROBLEM
>>> AND THAT GM IS REFUSING TO WARRANTY THE FAILED ENGINES.
>>>
>>> Let me re-state the facts here: my truck is a 2001 GMC 3500 with 80,000
>>> miles on it that only made it 2,144 miles AFTER THE ENGINE WAS FLOODED
>>> WITH FUEL THAT WASHED AWAY THE LUBRICANT before FAILING as a result of
>>> OIL BEING WASHED AWAY FROM THE BEARINGS. GM is refusing to honor the
>>> warranty on grounds that in their opinion THE OIL PUMP FAILED AT 80,000
>>> MILES which is unrelated to the flooding problem.
>>>
>>> If they are right, THAT'S EVEN WORSE NEWS FOR DURAMAX OWNERS. YOUR OIL
>>> PUMP COULD FAIL AT RANDOM AT 80,000 MILES AND GM WILL NOT STAND BEHIND
>>> IT.
>>>
>>> I suspect that eventually there will be a class action lawsuit that
>>> will force them to pay up on these failures but right now I'm SCREWED.
>>> I have a wife and 2 kids and make my living with the truck and now I'm
>>> looking at $15,600 for a replacement engine from GM that I'll have to
>>> throw on high interest credit cards if I want to be able to provide for
>>> my family. They have me by the b@lls here. I still owe $10K on the
>>> truck and now I'm looking at buying it again, basically, and I'm sick
>>> inside over it.
>>>
>>> Any helpful hints on how to proceed or any other forums you could
>>> suggest to post to will be appreciated, as well as any help in
>>> spreading the word. My only hope at this point is to somehow generate
>>> enough publicity that they agree to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help/time.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

<snip>

none2u wrote:
> If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
> I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or injectors
> which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil pan.
> Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month. Change
> the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to the
> dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in is
> more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I could
> get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
> injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
> real happy.

WHOA! 02u, What a low-livin thing to suggest an honest man to do;
Pass this piece of shit off on to some other poor soul. That's
probably what had happened to OP. <g>

Wait til Will, Lon, Lz, Frank, Carl A. and the rest of the anti-WIFI
stealing group get done with you...

I mean these guys go ballistic when someone 'grabs' a free email check
on an open WIFI.
An their 'mean as hell' too!

This is BIG-TIME crooked-ass stuff you are suggesting compared to
copping a free WIFI. You better get ready for the attack, these guys
just won't stand for this stuff being posted here on RORT!! Good
Luck.. <g> -gar

"I don't care who you are, thats funny!" LTCG

♫♪ ...BE HAPPY... ♫♪ .. DON'T HURRY ... ♫♪
http://coltonmotorexpress.blogspot.com/
79 Georgie Boy 33' Motor Home
81 MBZ 300td turbo stick shift [Tow-Car]
just can't call my ol Mercedes a 'toad' -gar




-gar

"David Moffitt" <moffittcl@stompingweasels.com> wrote

> %%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.

I have heard that Ford Powerstroke is a great engine.

I didn't say I believe it, just that I heard it.

Steve

xblackoutx@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail

You're in a hysterical emotional state. There is no way you'll get any
satisfaction yelling and screaming, stomping your feet and holding your
breath like a 3-year-old. I suggest you get it out of your system now,
and conduct yourself in a civil, professional manner when dealing with
GM. No customer service professional should ever have to put up with an
abusive customer, regardless of the situation or how badly the customer
feels he/she was "wronged." If you treat them as professionals instead
of punching bags, it is likely that they will treat you the same way.

Warranties expire. Your drivetrain warranty expired on the 5th
anniversary of the day you took delivery on your truck. That means that
anything that happens to anything that is not expressly covered by
another warranty is YOUR RESPONSIBLITY, no matter what caused the
failure. You agreed to this when you signed the contract on the day you
purchased the truck. You can't buy a vehicle without signing an
agreement that states as much.

The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
engine failure, only the injectors are covered.

If you didn't read the terms ahead of time, then you've got nothing to
complain about. If you agreed to the terms knowingly and willingly, you
have nothing to complain about. If you didn't agree to the terms, but
signed the contract anyway, you have nothing to complain about.

<mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1161184741.153282.280390@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> xblackoutx@gmail.com wrote:

>
> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>

This is the part where they may be hope for the OP. An argument can
certainly be made that due to the failure of the injector .... that is
warrantied for 200k miles .... further engine damage occurred.

Eisboch

<mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote

> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.

Well, lemme ask you this ...............

My outside mirror wouldn't work properly. While driving and messing with it
at the same time, I clipped a highway marker. I proceeded down the
embankment, rolled four times, and they are still picking up parts from the
trailer. The whole shebang is a total loss, but now the mirror works. Go
figger.

Am I covered, and if not, why not?

Steve ;-)

Back in my younger days when I worked in the oil field,when we would
change the oil in the v-12 diesel engines we would fill up the crank
case with diesel to clean the innards. This was done since the engines
were new and we would just idle them for a minute then drain, idle
again with new oil, then change that. We never had a problem. As for
your case it appears that your engine was ran for a while at hi way
speeds(?) so that defiantly washed the bearings. Of course you will
have to retain an attorney and spend about the same, if not more to
get GM to pay for it.
Good luck.


On 17 Oct 2006 14:39:55 -0700, xblackoutx@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail and fill
>the motor with deisel fuel to the point where it was blowing out of the
>fill tube. The truck only has 80,000 miles on it. There is a GM service
>bulliten that was issued that says they have extended the warranty on
>the injectors to 200,000 miles and 10 years so the local dealer
>replaced them under warranty. I told them at that time I didn't think
>that running deisel fuel inside that motor had done it any good and
>that the whole motor was suspect in my opinion and was told that
>"deisel contains some oil so it won't damage anything". I got a whole
>2144 miles before a bearing spun and now my motor is trashed and they
>are telling me that the area rep is denying my warranty coverage
>because the truck is out of the official 100,000 mile 5 year warranty
>by 9 months, even though the faulty injectors that caused the failure
>are warranteed for 200,000 miles or 10 years . My point is that the
>injector failure flooded the engine with solvent, basically, and washed
>all oil away from the contact areas which caused the failure and the
>mechanic who is working on it at the local dealership agrees with me
>completely. I'm looking at $15,600 to get it replaced. I was hoping for
>some expert opinions on the lubricating properties of deisel fuel as an
>oil substitute. I'm no expert but I suspect that deisel is not really
>acceptable as an engine lubricant, and I suspect that the oil pump
>would not pump it as the viscosity is so low. Any
>help/tips/advice/pointers towards anything printed that says DO NOT ADD
>DEISEL FUEL TO YOUR ENGINE, IT WILL DAMAGE IT would be greatly
>appreciated as the motor is torn apart as I type this and they are
>awaiting the new engine.
>
>P.S. I've been calling deisel mechanics all morning and I have gotten
>100% confirmation that running your motor with deisel fuel in side of
>it washes the oil from the contact surfaces of the motor, no ifs ands
>or buts abou tit
>
>P.P.S. DURAMAX FUEL INJECTORS CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE UPDATE: Well, I just
>got off the phone with the GM Customer service people. They say that
>since the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty is expired by 9 months they will
>not warranty the motor even though it was RUINED by an injector failing
>and flooding the engine with deisel. The injectors are warranteed for
>200,000 miles or 10 years because they are DEFECTIVE ( see
>http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax...orwarranty.htm ) and are
>going bad on a regular basis according to the local dealers duramax
>mechanic. I talked to this mechanic at length who took the engine out
>and HE AGREES WITH ME 100%. The mechanic told me that he has seen a
>bunch of these injector failures and every time an engine gets filled
>with deisel the trusks start coming in with low oil pressure readings
>and "it's only a matter of time before they FAIL". He has told me that
>
>That's right folks, A GM TRAINED DURAMAX MECHANIC HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
>SEES THESE FAILURES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT HE HAS TOLD THE AREA GM
>REP THAT THE ENGINES ARE FAILING AS A RESULT OF THE INJECTOR PROBLEM
>AND THAT GM IS REFUSING TO WARRANTY THE FAILED ENGINES.
>
>Let me re-state the facts here: my truck is a 2001 GMC 3500 with 80,000
>miles on it that only made it 2,144 miles AFTER THE ENGINE WAS FLOODED
>WITH FUEL THAT WASHED AWAY THE LUBRICANT before FAILING as a result of
>OIL BEING WASHED AWAY FROM THE BEARINGS. GM is refusing to honor the
>warranty on grounds that in their opinion THE OIL PUMP FAILED AT 80,000
>MILES which is unrelated to the flooding problem.
>
>If they are right, THAT'S EVEN WORSE NEWS FOR DURAMAX OWNERS. YOUR OIL
>PUMP COULD FAIL AT RANDOM AT 80,000 MILES AND GM WILL NOT STAND BEHIND
>IT.
>
>I suspect that eventually there will be a class action lawsuit that
>will force them to pay up on these failures but right now I'm SCREWED.
>I have a wife and 2 kids and make my living with the truck and now I'm
>looking at $15,600 for a replacement engine from GM that I'll have to
>throw on high interest credit cards if I want to be able to provide for
>my family. They have me by the b@lls here. I still owe $10K on the
>truck and now I'm looking at buying it again, basically, and I'm sick
>inside over it.
>
>Any helpful hints on how to proceed or any other forums you could
>suggest to post to will be appreciated, as well as any help in
>spreading the word. My only hope at this point is to somehow generate
>enough publicity that they agree to fix it.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help/time.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:25:59 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>
><mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:1161184741.153282.280390@i3g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> xblackoutx@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> The INJECTORS were covered by the 200000 mile warranty. Injectors only,
>> nothing else. Doesn't matter that the injectors MAY have caused the
>> engine failure, only the injectors are covered.
>>
>
>This is the part where they may be hope for the OP. An argument can
>certainly be made that due to the failure of the injector .... that is
>warrantied for 200k miles .... further engine damage occurred.
>
>Eisboch
>

The term for this is consequential damage. You can be sure there is an
express exclusion to this in the warranty, and hence though pissed
off, the original poster really has no legal leg to stand on.

Of course that doesn't prevent trying a 'good will' approach (he may
have burned that bridge already, however), or a threat approach ('Hi,
I'm Attorney X, representing Mr. OP, and we're filing a lawsuit…').
The threat approach has virtually no chances of success (for so many
reasons!) and can cost an arm and a leg.

I did get a car maker to replace an engine at 85K miles (was a 3/36
warranty) but it took some really sweet talking, and that was an
unusual case.