Hello

I need to replace all 6 of the radius arm bushes on my 1990 90, and i was
thinking of fitting pollybushes.

I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how much of
a bastard is it to get the old ones out?

Is see that britpart do a kit for half the price of the pollbush ones. Has
anyone uses either?

Mark
9090

Mark Solesbury wrote:

> Hello
>
> I need to replace all 6 of the radius arm bushes on my 1990 90, and i was
> thinking of fitting pollybushes.
>
> I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how much
> of a bastard is it to get the old ones out?
>
> Is see that britpart do a kit for half the price of the pollbush ones. Has
> anyone uses either?
>
> Mark
> 9090

The old ones can be quite difficult to get out if you do not have a press
and the right size tool for removing the outer sleeve. (If you do have
these the rubber bushes are just as easy to fit as the polybushes) This
applies to the ones on the axle, the other end is just the same whether
polybush or rubber.
Do a search on earlier threads to see the arguments for and against
polybushes. I don't know anything specific about the Britpart kit, but I
suggest you get what you pay for.
JD

Mark wrote:

> I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how much of
> a bastard is it to get the old ones out?

It can be very tricky getting old ones out. You can burn out the
middle rubbery bit and use a hacksaw/chisel to get the metal out.
Nasty fumes, don't do this in your garage. If you are a farmer who
fences miles per year and are good with a mell then you can bash them
out (don't bother with anything smaller, they will never move). Or you
can take them to someone with a vice and leave them there with a crisp
five pound note attached and pick them up a day later. Polybushes are
easy to fit, little bit of washing up liquid needed perhaps but thats
all. Deflex ones have lasted two years here so far. Original ones are
cheap and genuine ones also last well for most people - leave a tenner
for the man with the press for this option...

Regards

William MacLeod

"Mark Solesbury" <msolesbury@NOSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> I need to replace all 6 of the radius arm bushes on my 1990 90, and i was
> thinking of fitting pollybushes.
>
> I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how much
> of
> a bastard is it to get the old ones out?
>
> Is see that britpart do a kit for half the price of the pollbush ones. Has
> anyone uses either?
>
> Mark
> 9090
>
>

There were some interesting posts some while ago regarding the different
shock absorbing abilities of rubber & poly bushes (if the bush doesn't
absorb it, where does the stress go?) - but I didn't read those until after
I had fitted Polybush Blue bushes.
The new bushes gave a wonderful crisp new ride (new original bushes would
probably have felt good too, after the sloppy ride of the old worn ones)
I think that the Polybush Orange bushes would have been too hard for my
tastes.
The Blue ones lasted well and were still fitted 4 years later (65K miles)
when I sold the truck (D90 PU)

Joskin

Hi Mark,

The old ones are a bit difficult to get out if you don't have a big
hydraulic press.

You can either burn out the rubber, or drill through it several times and
force it out (with the inner bush). Then carefully saw into the inner bush
(taking care not to damage the radius arm). When almost through you can
split the bush and get it out.

It is a bit of a hassle but do-able.

Good luck,

Pieter

"Joskin" <reply@to.group> wrote in message
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> "Mark Solesbury" <msolesbury@NOSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:442818f3$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I need to replace all 6 of the radius arm bushes on my 1990 90, and i was
>> thinking of fitting pollybushes.
>>
>> I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how much
>> of
>> a bastard is it to get the old ones out?
>>
>> Is see that britpart do a kit for half the price of the pollbush ones.
>> Has
>> anyone uses either?
>>
>> Mark
>> 9090
>>
>>
>
> There were some interesting posts some while ago regarding the different
> shock absorbing abilities of rubber & poly bushes (if the bush doesn't
> absorb it, where does the stress go?) - but I didn't read those until
> after I had fitted Polybush Blue bushes.
> The new bushes gave a wonderful crisp new ride (new original bushes would
> probably have felt good too, after the sloppy ride of the old worn ones)
> I think that the Polybush Orange bushes would have been too hard for my
> tastes.
> The Blue ones lasted well and were still fitted 4 years later (65K miles)
> when I sold the truck (D90 PU)
>
> Joskin
>

Mark Hi,

I guess you have already read the comments of other fellow members about the
removal procedure and what is required.
Now in relation to the comparison between polyurathane bushes.

Orange POLYBUSH ones are a bit hard and make your car crispier.
Blue POLYBUSHES are much closer to the standard feel of the original
rubber/metallic ones you buy from LR.
Yellow IRONMAN are leaning towards the Orange POLYBUSH ones.
Green or black DEFLEX (the cheap one you mentioned) are not that bad, feel
like the original rubber/metallic ones and tend to have a good lifespan.

Orange ones tend to limit the suspension travel a bit and make it react a
bit slower (thus giving the crispier feel)
Deflex ones have been used by several fellow members here in Greece with no
problems up to now, some of them being fitted on cars for more than three
years now. Cars with regular road use (about 20.000 miles on the road per
year) and occasional off roading light to medium use (weekend excursions and
holidays extended offroading trips)
I have a set of Yellow IRONMAN ones on one of my camels for more than 10
years now. Have seen camel trophy team members selection action, relatively
hard offroading use and after about 80.000 kms (do not operate the car so
much on the road right now) they are still strong.

Hope this helps

Take care
Pantelis

"Pieter Vroom" <p@vroom.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:48v49vFlhdnpU1@individual.net...
> Hi Mark,
>
> The old ones are a bit difficult to get out if you don't have a big
> hydraulic press.
>
> You can either burn out the rubber, or drill through it several times and
> force it out (with the inner bush). Then carefully saw into the inner bush
> (taking care not to damage the radius arm). When almost through you can
> split the bush and get it out.
>
> It is a bit of a hassle but do-able.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Pieter
>
> "Joskin" <reply@to.group> wrote in message
> news:4428fca6$0$70320$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> > "Mark Solesbury" <msolesbury@NOSPAMfuji.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:442818f3$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I need to replace all 6 of the radius arm bushes on my 1990 90, and i
was
> >> thinking of fitting pollybushes.
> >>
> >> I assume that they are easier to fit, as they come in 2 bits... how
much
> >> of
> >> a bastard is it to get the old ones out?
> >>
> >> Is see that britpart do a kit for half the price of the pollbush ones.
> >> Has
> >> anyone uses either?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >> 9090
> >>
> >>
> >
> > There were some interesting posts some while ago regarding the different
> > shock absorbing abilities of rubber & poly bushes (if the bush doesn't
> > absorb it, where does the stress go?) - but I didn't read those until
> > after I had fitted Polybush Blue bushes.
> > The new bushes gave a wonderful crisp new ride (new original bushes
would
> > probably have felt good too, after the sloppy ride of the old worn ones)
> > I think that the Polybush Orange bushes would have been too hard for my
> > tastes.
> > The Blue ones lasted well and were still fitted 4 years later (65K
miles)
> > when I sold the truck (D90 PU)
> >
> > Joskin
> >
>
>

I get burning/drilling out the old ones,other Landy owners have told me that.
How about fitting new o.e. parts without a press will thet drift in???

Yu wanna watch out fur burning bushes - yu ask Slob;).

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