Eurovox wiring...Help?

G'day workers.....

Has anyone knowledge of the 'connection plug lead designations' for a
"Eurovox 6315 OE".....

I'd like to put this unit ( it's a radio/ cassette) in my 'old' machine
(1977). It was replaced in a Landrover Defender TDi300 1997 , and though I
have the Unit, with plug and short wires ( and the security code) The
connections are a 'maze' to me.

I hope you can help. I sure would appreciate it.


The plug that goes into the back of the unit has _many_ more connections
than the usual earth/battery/accessories/ L&R speakers..... !!


Holding the plug with long axis downward, locking lug on right and viewing
from the wires side ( not the plug 'holes' side which plugs into the back
of the Eurovox), I have the following thirteen wires;-
_____________________________
white/black stripe, | white

green/black stripe, | green

purple, | red

grey(on its own) -- (LOCK LUG SIDE)

black, | orange

yellow/black stripe, | yellow

blue/backstripe, | blue
______________________________

Looking forward to a reply from someone who has this knowledge ( or access
to it). I've searched the 'net, but wasn't able to find any diagrams ( as
'Pioneer' have for their products!) I also emailed Eurovox in similar
terms to the above but they didn't reply.

Best wishes,

...... frodo.

Hi Frodo,
just wired my 6330 into my sons first car so can help out.

_____________________________
> white/black stripe, | white

> green/black stripe, | green
>
> purple, | red
>
> grey(on its own) -- (LOCK LUG SIDE)
>
> black, | orange
>
> yellow/black stripe, | yellow
>
> blue/backstripe, | blue
>______________________________


Using above format:


FRONT right | FRONT right

FRONT left | FRONT left

12V + | 12V + connected to ignition switch

auto antenna (I didn't use this)

EARTH | (don't know name but used on some car
phones to turn volum down when phone rings-not needed)

BACK right | BACK right

BACK left | BACK left



As a matter of convention the speaker wires that have the thin black
stripe are used to make sure all the speakers are connected to the
same polarity, and this way they are all in sync. On some speakers
(low end of market) it also shows the "earth" wire for the speaker.

The purple 12 volt wire is connected to a voltage source that is
always on, as this is what maintains the radios memory (radio station
settings and clock) and makes the LED on the front flash as a security
warning.

If you want the radio to work without having to have the ignition
switch on, then simply run the two wires together to your fused active
12 volt supply.

To make sure the radio is OK I connect the purple and black wire to
the 12 volt and earth respectively and make sure the LED comes on.
When the red wire is cionnected then the screen lights up etc and you
can put the security code etc in.

Don't run the radio without any speakers connected as you may wreck
the output circuit and this is expensive.

The antenna plugs into the socket at the rear right hand side.

Hope this helps.


Cheers




Phillip Simpson











On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:21:00 +1000, [email protected] (frodo)
wrote:

>G'day workers.....
>
>Has anyone knowledge of the 'connection plug lead designations' for a
>"Eurovox 6315 OE".....
>
>I'd like to put this unit ( it's a radio/ cassette) in my 'old' machine
>(1977). It was replaced in a Landrover Defender TDi300 1997 , and though I
>have the Unit, with plug and short wires ( and the security code) The
>connections are a 'maze' to me.
>
>I hope you can help. I sure would appreciate it.
>
>
>The plug that goes into the back of the unit has _many_ more connections
>than the usual earth/battery/accessories/ L&R speakers..... !!
>
>
>Holding the plug with long axis downward, locking lug on right and viewing
>from the wires side ( not the plug 'holes' side which plugs into the back
>of the Eurovox), I have the following thirteen wires;-
>_____________________________
> white/black stripe, | white
>
> green/black stripe, | green
>
> purple, | red
>
> grey(on its own) -- (LOCK LUG SIDE)
>
> black, | orange
>
> yellow/black stripe, | yellow
>
> blue/backstripe, | blue
>______________________________
>
>Looking forward to a reply from someone who has this knowledge ( or access
>to it). I've searched the 'net, but wasn't able to find any diagrams ( as
>'Pioneer' have for their products!) I also emailed Eurovox in similar
>terms to the above but they didn't reply.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>..... frodo.

In article <[email protected]>, Phillip Simpson
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Frodo,
> just wired my 6330 into my sons first car so can help out.....


G'day Phillip...

What a _fantastic_ , 'comprehensive' response from you!!! Thank you.
....So _excellent_ !!!

You covered it _all_, Phillip.... so there's _no_ excuse now for a wiring
of this unit with no probs at all into my 'old bus', eh.

Interesting that "Eurovox" ( even in NZ) failed to answer my query
directly to them, eh!

With such a diverse collection of 'others' on this group, it never ceases
to amaze me that there is usually _someone_ who has the answer to one's
question. You sure came up with the goods on this one. Spot on!!

Thanks again, Phillip.

..... frodo.

In article <[email protected]>, Phillip Simpson
<[email protected]> wrote:


> Don't run the radio without any speakers connected as you may wreck
> the output circuit and this is expensive.

Hey Phillip.... Just one more..? ) ....... What speakers ?.... I'm
guessing 4 Ohms ( ?) , but what is the _Output_ of the Eurovox 6315 .....
i.e. should I run 50 watts a side... 100 watts speakers??... more? Any
difference if I run two or four ??

Regards....

..... frodo.

Phillip Simpson wrote:

>Don't run the radio without any speakers connected as you may wreck
>the output circuit and this is expensive.
>
>
How? Is this a quirk of the Eurovox?

Unloaded speaker o/p won't blow an ouput stage on ordinary car radios,
unless you mean connecting the speakers as a means of ensuring that the
o/p are not inadvertantly shorted (which would blow the o/p stage).

Richard

>Phillip Simpson
>
>

Hey guys,
thanks for reminding me just how old I really am! I was in the
radio club at Wgtn college in the late sixties and these were the old
valve units. Since then I never like to run any radio/amp etc with
zero load on the o/p's. Some habits just die hard.

Cheers


Phillip Simpson



On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:04:22 +1200, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>Richard Savage wrote:
>>
>> Unloaded speaker o/p won't blow an ouput stage on ordinary car radios,
>> unless you mean connecting the speakers as a means of ensuring that the
>> o/p are not inadvertantly shorted (which would blow the o/p stage).
>
>I agree - unloaded o/p haven't been a problem since the days of valve
>amplifiers.

Hi Frodo,
no probs. As I had just wired up the 6330 into my son's car it
only seemed the right thing to do.

As I see it the 6330 went into the disco and the 6315 went into the
defender. Difference is that the 6330 has a CD input on the front.

I suspect that part of the poor response from Eurovox is that the
system is an OEM arrangement with LR, and as such they may not have
all the info easily available.

Even the Hayman manual had schematics that showed the radio
connections, but these were for the UK based systems. Still it helped
me understand the Eurovox wiring "philosophy", and the rest was easy
(multimeter and removed outer case to confirm connections).

Anyway I know it works so was happy to pass the info on.


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:11:02 +1000, [email protected] (frodo)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Phillip Simpson
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Frodo,
>> just wired my 6330 into my sons first car so can help out.....
>
>
>G'day Phillip...
>
>What a _fantastic_ , 'comprehensive' response from you!!! Thank you.
>...So _excellent_ !!!
>
>You covered it _all_, Phillip.... so there's _no_ excuse now for a wiring
>of this unit with no probs at all into my 'old bus', eh.
>
>Interesting that "Eurovox" ( even in NZ) failed to answer my query
>directly to them, eh!
>
>With such a diverse collection of 'others' on this group, it never ceases
>to amaze me that there is usually _someone_ who has the answer to one's
>question. You sure came up with the goods on this one. Spot on!!
>
>Thanks again, Phillip.
>
>.... frodo.

Hi Frodo,
speakers we connected to in the Mazda were 4 ohms, 12 W
nominal (25W max). Unknown brand but were whatever was supplied in the
1985 Mazda.

We have 4 spkrs to maximise the benefits of the 6330, especially the
fade and balance. This way the sound can be altered front/back as well
as left/right.

I would imagine that these days 4 speakers would be the standard
configuration you would want. The sound coming from the above speakers
in the Mazda is brilliant on a wide range of music, and they have an
excellent base response which always sounds good in a metal box (ie
car).

Audiophiles can better recomend speakers, but not being one I just use
what is there, or choose to afford at the time.

By the way what vehicle are you fitting the radio to?

Cheers


Phillip





On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:47:26 +1000, [email protected] (frodo)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Phillip Simpson
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Don't run the radio without any speakers connected as you may wreck
>> the output circuit and this is expensive.
>
>Hey Phillip.... Just one more..? ) ....... What speakers ?.... I'm
>guessing 4 Ohms ( ?) , but what is the _Output_ of the Eurovox 6315 .....
>i.e. should I run 50 watts a side... 100 watts speakers??... more? Any
>difference if I run two or four ??
>
>Regards....
>
>.... frodo.

In article <[email protected]>, Phillip Simpson
<[email protected]> wrote:


> Hi Frodo,
> speakers we connected to in the Mazda were 4 ohms, 12 W
> nominal (25W max). Unknown brand but were whatever was supplied in the
> 1985 Mazda.

.....///...
> Audiophiles can better recomend speakers, but not being one I just use
> what is there, or choose to afford at the time.
>
> By the way what vehicle are you fitting the radio to?


G'day Phillip.....

Just wanted to check with you in case the speakers I intend using might
have been too low. I didn't want distortion at low volume......
Heheheheh...Anyway, I bought some Sony 4 Oh 100w 6" ( nom. 30 or 40w) with
extruded cones, _three_ ways, too, at "Super Cheap's" sale for $80 a
pair. I want Mozart crisp and clean, John Lee Hooker boogying to all,
Nachariakov's and James Morrison's brass to blow me away .... and all the
Trad I can pump through the system into mine.... Hehhehhehhehheh !!!
......... Give these bloody 'doof-doofers' some _REAL_ music !!

I replaced the Eurovox with a Pioneer Cd/tuner that does all the above...
and more..., in my '97 Defender110 TDi300.

But I also have (furtively glancing left and right... and sotto voce on
_this_ group ) ) a 1977 HJ45 Landcruiser. ( bought it 'third' hand in
1980. It's indestructable!!) It is this _great_ tank in which the 'new
system' will go. The radio seems quite excellent in the Eurovox..... maybe
even better than the Pioneer. The tape is far from the quality of a Cd,
but, as you said, 'it's _there_ ' !

In my Defender, the audio is _really_ flying. _Best_ sound I've _ever_
had....... must be the long tin box. I've got two three way 6x9" extruded
'Pioneers' in the back corners, and two of the 6" three way 'Sonys' on the
lower dash corners. ...... I'm now a travelling sound system when I want
to be! )) Even my wife's "Neil Diamond"CD's.... AAaaarrrrrggghhhhhh !!!
sound _almost_ tolerable for a few minutes with this 'good' ( for me)
system.

BTW.... thanks to the other workers for the recent speaker wiring advice
in the Landie..... 'got there' in the end. There _still_ must be a better
way than 'wot I dun' !.... but it's all done now!!!


Thanks again, Phillip, for your words and time in setting me 'on the right
track' with the thirteen 'mystery wires' ))....

Best wishes,

..... frodo.