diahatsu gearbox into a series

hiya ,

just going to take the engine out of my newly acquired donor vehicle,
when it struck me,,,," hmmmm, wonder if i can put the diahatsu g/box
in as well"?

its going in a series motor , ive not even looked yet, just thought id
put this post on here and test the viability of such an idea.

will it be worth it if i could.?

im a dab hand with a welder and grinder.

any ideas/ thoughts


Andy

If you can make it fit go for it. Series box's are notoriosly pooh ( I'm on
my 4th in 5 years)

Hope this helps

Icky
"dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hiya ,
>
> just going to take the engine out of my newly acquired donor vehicle,
> when it struck me,,,," hmmmm, wonder if i can put the diahatsu g/box
> in as well"?
>
> its going in a series motor , ive not even looked yet, just thought id
> put this post on here and test the viability of such an idea.
>
> will it be worth it if i could.?
>
> im a dab hand with a welder and grinder.
>
> any ideas/ thoughts
>
>
> Andy

> "dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> hiya ,
>>
>> just going to take the engine out of my newly acquired donor vehicle,
>> when it struck me,,,," hmmmm, wonder if i can put the diahatsu g/box
>> in as well"?
>>
>> its going in a series motor , ive not even looked yet, just thought id
>> put this post on here and test the viability of such an idea.
>>
>> will it be worth it if i could.?
>>
>> im a dab hand with a welder and grinder.
>>
>> any ideas/ thoughts

Would the props line up with the diffs ok? i.e is the transfer box outputs
in line with the diffs rather than centre or even the opposite side of the
motor?

Lee D

Lee D

In message <[email protected]>
"the ickys" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you can make it fit go for it. Series box's are notoriosly pooh ( I'm on
> my 4th in 5 years)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Icky
> "dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > hiya ,
> >
> > just going to take the engine out of my newly acquired donor vehicle,
> > when it struck me,,,," hmmmm, wonder if i can put the diahatsu g/box
> > in as well"?
> >
> > its going in a series motor , ive not even looked yet, just thought id
> > put this post on here and test the viability of such an idea.
> >
> > will it be worth it if i could.?
> >
> > im a dab hand with a welder and grinder.
> >
> > any ideas/ thoughts
> >
> >
> > Andy
>
>

It's not exactly exhaustive research, but a custoner has been
putting Diahatsu engines in his Series I for years, and finaly
got round to putting the Diahatsu gearbox in as well. It didn't
work, and a Series II box is now installed. The motor get a hard
life towing animals to market (often in a trailer!) so it does
get some grief.

Richard
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On or around Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:47:04 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>It's not exactly exhaustive research, but a custoner has been
>putting Diahatsu engines in his Series I for years, and finaly
>got round to putting the Diahatsu gearbox in as well. It didn't
>work, and a Series II box is now installed. The motor get a hard
>life towing animals to market (often in a trailer!) so it does
>get some grief.

I know someone who has a 2.8 Daihatsu engine and box in a 90, seems to go
all right. The vehicle is an ex-UN one, bought with no engine/box and
thereby cheaply.

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:29:18 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:47:04 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>It's not exactly exhaustive research, but a custoner has been
>>putting Diahatsu engines in his Series I for years, and finaly
>>got round to putting the Diahatsu gearbox in as well. It didn't
>>work, and a Series II box is now installed. The motor get a hard
>>life towing animals to market (often in a trailer!) so it does
>>get some grief.
>
>I know someone who has a 2.8 Daihatsu engine and box in a 90, seems to go
>all right. The vehicle is an ex-UN one, bought with no engine/box and
>thereby cheaply.


i had a 2.8 daihatsu in up untill xmass then it , kinda , blew up.

so now ive got a 2.8 turbo sat outside waiting to be stripped..

the only problem i thought about the 2.8 was the rev range/gearing. I
know they are linked .

i put defender diffs in to up it a bit, but with 7.50`s on and towing
my van fully laden it was a struggle to maintain any reasonable speed
up hill. slowing down to 10 mph on some not so steep but long drag
hills.

this has to be a concoction of the engine-gearbox-final drive diffs.

my idea so far is to put in the engine and its associated box,
therefore it would pull as good as it should, the only limiting factor
then would be my final diff choice, which at the mo are standard
series diffs.

do you think im on the right tracks here? or maybe inviting disaster
later on, or,,,,,just talking complete ball**ks.

what would you do if you had the choice??

cheers for input so far, but im a bit scepticle. But whatever, it can
all be put back i suppose if it doesnt work , cant it.

andy

On or around Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:13:59 +0000, dave <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>>
>>I know someone who has a 2.8 Daihatsu engine and box in a 90, seems to go
>>all right. The vehicle is an ex-UN one, bought with no engine/box and
>>thereby cheaply.
>
>
>i had a 2.8 daihatsu in up untill xmass then it , kinda , blew up.
>
>so now ive got a 2.8 turbo sat outside waiting to be stripped..
>
>the only problem i thought about the 2.8 was the rev range/gearing. I
>know they are linked .
>
>i put defender diffs in to up it a bit, but with 7.50`s on and towing
>my van fully laden it was a struggle to maintain any reasonable speed
>up hill. slowing down to 10 mph on some not so steep but long drag
>hills.

the 2.8 non-turbo isn't super-powerful, mind.

>this has to be a concoction of the engine-gearbox-final drive diffs.
>
>my idea so far is to put in the engine and its associated box,
>therefore it would pull as good as it should, the only limiting factor
>then would be my final diff choice, which at the mo are standard
>series diffs.
>
>do you think im on the right tracks here? or maybe inviting disaster
>later on, or,,,,,just talking complete ball**ks.
>
>what would you do if you had the choice??

if I had the money, 2.8 powerstroke and a R380 box

find out the final drive ratio of the diahatsu, taking into account that
they run on smaller wheels. I'd suspect that you're better off with the
series diffs, 'specially if you're runnign 7.50s.



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Austin Shackles wrote:


> find out the final drive ratio of the diahatsu, taking into account that
> they run on smaller wheels. I'd suspect that you're better off with the
> series diffs, 'specially if you're runnign 7.50s.

5.8:1


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On or around Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:59:00 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>
>> find out the final drive ratio of the diahatsu, taking into account that
>> they run on smaller wheels. I'd suspect that you're better off with the
>> series diffs, 'specially if you're runnign 7.50s.
>
>5.8:1

Blimey. In that case whatever you do it'll be overgeared - you'd need a
1-ton low-ratio T-box, or something.

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Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:59:00 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>
>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>find out the final drive ratio of the diahatsu, taking into account that
>>>they run on smaller wheels. I'd suspect that you're better off with the
>>>series diffs, 'specially if you're runnign 7.50s.
>>
>>5.8:1
>
>
> Blimey. In that case whatever you do it'll be overgeared - you'd need a
> 1-ton low-ratio T-box, or something.
>

Standard series is 4.7:1 with a 1.148 transfer case reduction, so
effective final drive is 5.4:1. Given how low geared the Daihatsu Delta
truck is (on 700R16's with the 5.8 ratio) I think you'd be about spot on
with the standard LR ratios.

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EMB

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:13:32 +1300, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>> On or around Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:59:00 +1300, EMB <[email protected]>
>> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>
>>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>find out the final drive ratio of the diahatsu, taking into account that
>>>>they run on smaller wheels. I'd suspect that you're better off with the
>>>>series diffs, 'specially if you're runnign 7.50s.
>>>
>>>5.8:1
>>
>>
>> Blimey. In that case whatever you do it'll be overgeared - you'd need a
>> 1-ton low-ratio T-box, or something.
>>
>
>Standard series is 4.7:1 with a 1.148 transfer case reduction, so
>effective final drive is 5.4:1. Given how low geared the Daihatsu Delta
>truck is (on 700R16's with the 5.8 ratio) I think you'd be about spot on
>with the standard LR ratios.


hiya,

i was planning on keeping the diffs as standard, i was more concerned
with how the daihatsu t/box would affect running it in all
terrains(tarmac,mud,grass,motorways etc,etc),pulling 1 ton caravans up
steeeeeep hills in the morning and thundering round trials circuits in
the afternoon.

thanks for advice guys, im gunna try and get it in, somehow!


andy

was reading through this topic, how did it go, did you get it working ?

I have a siia wi the 2.8 in and my siii gearbox is on the way out. wondering if the daih box was a better bet

Interesting project would be nice to know if it worked out, I did think about 200 tdi in the lightweight but the advice at the time was that the series box wouldn't take it.

series boxes are ok if you look after them and don't try racing changes. i dunt know about yer rice burner box but if its perm 4x4 your front axle wont like it. it has uj's in it and was designed for selectable 4wd rather than perm 4wd.