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Old 5th-November-2006, 22:14
Rich
 
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Default 4203 Perkins

I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the top
speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight issue

Rich


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Old 5th-November-2006, 22:20
GrnOval
 
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"Rich" <r3engineering@ntlworldspam.com> wrote in message
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:I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
: engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the top
: speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight issue
:
: Rich

I had a classic with a 4203, unbelievable pulling power but knack all go.

Its a combine harvester engine IIRC, and is best suited to stay there.

Can't answer about the 6247

Si


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Old 5th-November-2006, 22:40
EMB
 
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Rich wrote:
> I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
> engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the top
> speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight issue


The 6.247 is also made under licence by Mazda as the ZB. In Mazda guise
it's rated for 115BHP@3600RPM. IMO it would be ok with an overdrive in
terms of speed but significantly underpowered for the application.

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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:05
Badger
 
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"EMB" <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rich wrote:
> > I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
> > engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the

top
> > speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight

issue
>
> The 6.247 is also made under licence by Mazda as the ZB. In Mazda guise
> it's rated for 115BHP@3600RPM. IMO it would be ok with an overdrive in
> terms of speed but significantly underpowered for the application.


Makes an even better boat anchor if attached to the end of a suitable chain!
;-)
Badger.


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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:24
Rich
 
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"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "EMB" <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eillmd$npk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Rich wrote:
>> > I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
>> > engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the

> top
>> > speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight

> issue
>>
>> The 6.247 is also made under licence by Mazda as the ZB. In Mazda guise
>> it's rated for 115BHP@3600RPM. IMO it would be ok with an overdrive in
>> terms of speed but significantly underpowered for the application.

>
> Makes an even better boat anchor if attached to the end of a suitable
> chain!
> ;-)
> Badger.


So you all are not impressed with these then, dont they have loads of grunt
and reliability going for them though?

Rich


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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:38
steve Taylor
 
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Rich wrote:

> So you all are not impressed with these then, dont they have loads of grunt
> and reliability going for them though?


They´re considered heavyweights even for a 101. And what do you think
you mean by grunt ? Power, or Torque, or Power/weight ratio.

Steve
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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:45
sean101ryan@hotmail.com
 
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Default Re: 4203 Perkins

Building a high speed tractor and want to go deaf?

There are much better engines around to fit. These may have been ok in
old series land rovers when there wasn't much else around.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
2000 110 CSW

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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:55
Rich
 
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"steve Taylor" <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Rich wrote:
>
>> So you all are not impressed with these then, dont they have loads of
>> grunt and reliability going for them though?

>
> They´re considered heavyweights even for a 101. And what do you think you
> mean by grunt ? Power, or Torque, or Power/weight ratio.
>
> Steve


Well in terms of grunt I would mean pulling ability so it would be torque !
surely power is not that much of an importance as the torque, I am aware
that they go hand in hand, but is not the torque the important one in terms
of being able to tow, say 2 plus tons on most road conditions, I am not
after performance just to cruise at about 60 ish with a trailer but when it
comes to a hill would prefer to not to change down several gears as I use to
have to do in it when it had the 3.5 V8 and then crawl up it doing 30MPH
!!!!

Rich


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Old 5th-November-2006, 23:58
Rich
 
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<sean101ryan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Building a high speed tractor and want to go deaf?
>
> There are much better engines around to fit. These may have been ok in
> old series land rovers when there wasn't much else around.
>
> Sean
> 73FL74 101GS
> 2000 110 CSW


Pardon dint quite hear that, can you speak up a bit, ;-) But doesn't the
growl of a big diesel send shivers down your spine !!!

Rich


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Old 6th-November-2006, 00:42
Austin Shackles
 
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On or around Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:40:34 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Rich wrote:
>> I don't know if I should raise this question but here goes, would this
>> engine be any use in a Classic Range Rover with overdrive or would the top
>> speed be ridiculously slow, or what about a 6247 ? is there a weight issue

>
>The 6.247 is also made under licence by Mazda as the ZB. In Mazda guise
>it's rated for 115BHP@3600RPM. IMO it would be ok with an overdrive in
>terms of speed but significantly underpowered for the application.


and I did hear once of someone putting a 6354 into a rangie, which has got
to rate among the more off-the-wall conversions.

daft idea. The 4203 is very suitable for a massey-ferguson tractor. The
4236 would be a bit better, but it's still very low-revving. Also it has a
raft of torque at lowish revs and is good for snapping half-shafts on series
motors, although the rangie should be a bit stronger.

There are plenty of more suitable engines around.
--
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