Snow is coming!

According to forecasts the snow is coming and I can't wait so if the North West gets none i will be completely naffed off - first chance i get I'm off to play somewhere.

Post up if you get a decent covering of the white stuff and let us know how your P38 performs as well as any tales like helping the 4x4 haters who suddenly love us when they are stuck and need a tow!

Mine was good in the snow last year.. But a few words of advice .
Just because its 4 wheel drive wont stop it sliding off in to a ditch or skiding into the car in front .
Take it easy and you will be fine...

I'm slightly worried about how my l322 will perform ! With all weather 20" wide ass Tyres :S

Any one else have any advise on what theirs was like last year with standard Tyres ??

Cheers

I hate the bloody white stuff, would be quite happy never to see it again and the golf course is covered so thats me Mr Grumpy but at least the Rangie with the all terrains will handle it better than me.
Davie

2.0_hippo said:

I'm slightly worried about how my l322 will perform ! With all weather 20" wide ass Tyres :S

Any one else have any advise on what theirs was like last year with standard Tyres ??

Cheers

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Get yourself some AT's

Dewin said:

Get yourself some AT's

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Lol
That was most likely the drivers fault !
Driving too quick

I drove to work Saturday morning to find that the interstate was covered in about an inch of ice. 9 cars were off the road in a 4 mile span of highway, pointing in various directions with emergency vehicles everywhere.

The Green Beast did fine, but there are a lot of dumb bastids out there. Good tires, good vehicle and common freaking sense is all you need.

As people have said, whilst 4x4's get better traction to get moving and to a lesser extent turn, they still only have four tiny bits of rubber touching the ground so will skid like any other car!

A standard Range Rover will cope with UK weather just fine. My Classic last year had knackered, mis-matched, worn Toyo Transpath and some-other-make tyres on and never once got stuck, towed several cars and a 7.5T truck no problem.

Couple of tips - in an auto, for going up hills use 2nd gear, not first, this will avoid wheelspin. Coming down them, if they're steep I will use low range 1st to control your speed, means you shouldn't need to touch the brakes at all. For towing, normal high-range should be fine unless they're in a ditch, then you may need low range.

Oh, and always removed the snow off your roof before driving...

Thanks for your helpful post and Infomation

Helps alot as this is my first automatic car so it's going to be different driving in the snow in an auto :S as been used to using the gears for control in a manual. I'm guessing on the L322 if you put it in manual tiptronic mode it will allow the engine to pull away in 2nd gear ?
Also for down hill I do have low range and hill decent control which usually helps alot

Cheers mate

torque convertor does what it says ,unlike a manual you can put as little or as much torque at the wheels as required,

2.0_hippo said:

Thanks for your helpful post and Infomation

Helps alot as this is my first automatic car so it's going to be different driving in the snow in an auto :S as been used to using the gears for control in a manual. I'm guessing on the L322 if you put it in manual tiptronic mode it will allow the engine to pull away in 2nd gear ?
Also for down hill I do have low range and hill decent control which usually helps alot

Cheers mate

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Thanks for that

Just need to get my low range sorted now as it doesnt seem to always want to go into or out of low range easily , something to do with a motor ? I think it could also be something to do with my possible faulty inhibiter switch

2.0_hippo said:

Thanks for your helpful post and Infomation

Helps alot as this is my first automatic car so it's going to be different driving in the snow in an auto :S as been used to using the gears for control in a manual. I'm guessing on the L322 if you put it in manual tiptronic mode it will allow the engine to pull away in 2nd gear ?
Also for down hill I do have low range and hill decent control which usually helps alot

Cheers mate

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No problem! I'm not au fait with the L322's but, for example, if you put an auto into 2nd gear it will allow it to use 1st and 2nd but not change up to 3rd - this is great for descending hills if you don't have HDC! On a snowy hill I would probably use HDC though, as it can independently brake each wheel to keep the car straight - a level of control the driver will never have on his own!

For going uphills, to be honest, I normally put it in 2nd and gun it as I've never had a problem and it's fun! Saying that, on a particularly steep hill covered in snow I would be more responsible - still high range 2nd, but just build up speed gradually, the important thing being to keep momentum.

The biggest risk going uphill is hitting ice, losing traction and sliding back down. If this happens you're in trouble, as you will not be able to brake to slow down, and you'll have limited control over direction either. So, if a hill looks icy and too steep, don't try it!! You can imagine the consequences of sliding back down a hill, with say cars parked either side, lamp posts lining the road, ditches/trees either side in rural areas, or kids sledging down the pavements - disastorous!!

Also worth remembering (after i saw the excessive snow on that L322 roof) is that not clearing the snow off your roof is an offence in the UK and is 3 points + £60 fine. A mate of mine got done last winter for this - just in case the snow comes off your car and either blocks your view (when braking) or causes another car to swerve if it comes off when accelerating.

lowfat said:

Mine was good in the snow last year.. But a few words of advice .
Just because its 4 wheel drive wont stop it sliding off in to a ditch or skiding into the car in front .
Take it easy and you will be fine...

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Wise words.

As you can see from my photo i went to play in the snow in turkey and that was on mt Nemrut and i did get stuck when the snow was deep enough to get under the front diff and lift the wheels off the ground but a little digging managed to get us mobile again that was the only time i used the snow chains.
All other times i went over snow covered passes without having to resort to snow chains where trucks and cars were sliding all over the place

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The biggest risk going uphill is hitting ice, losing traction and sliding back down. If this happens you're in trouble, as you will not be able to brake to slow down, and you'll have limited control over direction either. So, if a hill looks icy and too steep, don't try it!! You can imagine the consequences of sliding back down a hill, with say cars parked either side, lamp posts lining the road, ditches/trees either side in rural areas, or kids sledging down the pavements - disastorous!!

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That happened to me in my Samurai several years ago on a very rural mountain road. Half way up I lost traction and could not stop or steer the car as it went with gravity and the fall line. I jumped out as it was rolling backwards at about 10 mph. Missing the open door was a challenge! I was sliding down the hill, feet first on my belly. I looked over my shoulder just a the little Zuk flew of the road and smashed into a Aspen tree blowing all the glass out of the thing. Had I been in the car I would have been broken AND shredded.

Traction is all you need, keeping it is the secret, not enough momentum or too much also needs to be thought about. If your out for driving in virgin snow with gradient a little less tyre pressure is a good thing and if your in a que and everyones slipping around go around them when it's safe, if there's not much getting up then there wont be much comming down there's no law saying you have to wait your turn but think of the first two laws at the top first.
Safe winter driving everyone.

P38A4.6 said:

if there's not much getting up then there wont be much comming down there's no law saying you have to wait your turn but think of the first two laws at the top first.

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This is true BUT I have seen so many people cause problems by doing this you do have to be careful! Last year we were recovering people on a big hill near us in my RR Classic (and another one turned up to help), I had gone down, turned round and hitched up a Mercedes estate to tow up. Some clown in a 4x4 (a Merc ML, IIRC) decided to go past us, but then promptly got stuck 20ft further up the hill, blocking our path - genius!

Because he had been so unhelpful no one on the hill wanted to help him either (he had refused to get out and push any other cars with everyone else), so we had to wait for him to slowly reverse back onto the side of the road so we could carry on clearing the hill! He got left there for being an arse.

Message from this really is DON'T go round others if you can't make it and IF you can then offer them a tow - if every capable 4x4 towed just one car up with them then these backlogs of vehciles would clear in no time

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This is true BUT I have seen so many people cause problems by doing this you do have to be careful! Last year we were recovering people on a big hill near us in my RR Classic (and another one turned up to help), I had gone down, turned round and hitched up a Mercedes estate to tow up. Some clown in a 4x4 (a Merc ML, IIRC) decided to go past us, but then promptly got stuck 20ft further up the hill, blocking our path - genius!

Because he had been so unhelpful no one on the hill wanted to help him either (he had refused to get out and push any other cars with everyone else), so we had to wait for him to slowly reverse back onto the side of the road so we could carry on clearing the hill! He got left there for being an arse.

Message from this really is DON'T go round others if you can't make it and IF you can then offer them a tow - if every capable 4x4 towed just one car up with them then these backlogs of vehciles would clear in no time

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He was driving a Merc M Class.....

One - he's a **** for buying it
Two - he's a **** for driving it like a ****
Three - he redeems himself for knowing he is in a incapable 4x4 so doesn't offer a tow, as he would only make himself look like more of a ****....