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Old 4th-June-2010, 23:52
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Question p38 Drivers & other air bags

I am told that the p38 (and probably everything else) will display an air bag fault after 10 years from manufacture. it seams that air bags (not the suspension airbags) have a best before date or at least the ecu controller has.
Is that correct?
Is it an mot failure?
If it is, what must be done (sounds stupid I know)
Replace drivers airbag?
Replace passinger airbag?
Replace side airbags?
How many are there?
Replace ecu, controllers?
Now sounding expensive but not as expensive as a crash with nout happening.
Wot sort of money are we talkin?
Ignore it, will it go away
Thanks for any advice
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Old 4th-June-2010, 23:53
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

have a butchsers MOT Testers Manual
all air bag(safety) are sed to be past it at 10 years
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Old 5th-June-2010, 00:12
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

Hi goonarmy
Go poke me in the eye but I cant find it.
Followed the link but cant see anything bout air bag

Ref; all air bag(safety) are sed to be past it at 10 years
So, regardless of if the p38 throes up a fault or not they need replacing?
Correct
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Old 5th-June-2010, 02:32
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

not a mot failure mine been lit past 12mths and it past a mot
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Old 5th-June-2010, 10:56
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

If you take a side airbag out, it has a label which states service life is 10 years and a date. I know this because one of the b#***#rds went pop on mine when I gently side swiped an earth bank. It destroyed the drivers seat back and offered F all protection as most of it went out the back of the seat. I won't be replacing it and I have unplugged the one in the passenger seat. Just got to work out how to fool the SRS DCU and re-set the "Airbag Fault" message now.
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Old 5th-June-2010, 12:48
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

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Hi goonarmy
Go poke me in the eye but I cant find it.
Followed the link but cant see anything bout air bag
Thats the point.If they aint on the test then ya cant fail on it. All air bags shelf life for all makes and models vary read the handbook. skoda recon 14 years How long do airbags last? - The Globe and Mail
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Old 5th-June-2010, 19:10
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

The SRS (Airbag) ECU nor the Becm will trigger a message indicationg that the bags are out of date or illuminate the warning lamp for the same reason.
Although the service schedule states that they should be replaced after 10 years, how many people have done so???
I would think that the cost of replacement, especially for those models with additional bags would be higher than the value of the car.
The most common cause of the airbag fault light being lit is I have found, due to the battery either going completely flat or being disconnected for a few weeks or longer. A simple reset puts it out again.
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Old 6th-June-2010, 02:42
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Default Re: p38 Drivers & other air bags

Thanks spiritmc
Good to know its nothing to do with the mot

Thanks Datatek
If you do work out how to fool the SRS DCU and re-set the "Airbag Fault" message then I would love to know how you did it.
I am looking at a late 2000 rangie and got to thinkin that the dam warning lights will come on in a couple of months.

Thanks goonarmy
Nice 1, fell for head over t%^* for that 1
Read the whole dam book.
I now know everything, (well lots) about mot tests.

Thanks Irishrover
Ref; The SRS (Airbag) ECU nor the Becm will trigger a message
Sorry confused with the reply
Do you mean it will or it will not trigger a message aftert 10 years.
I was looking at a 96 rangie and it had drivers airbag warning. I think that was what it said (was a couple of weeks ago)
Seller said every rangie over 10 years had same warning because bags out of date. Is this right or wrong?
Got me thinkin, Googled drivers airbag cost, got 500 or more
Could be 6 or 7 airbags in a car
Thats like 3 or 4 gran and thats + fitting

Wot's the situtation if you buy a rangie thats over 10 years old (described as no known faults) from a dealer, if LR service schedule states that they should be replaced after 10 years?

Thanks all
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Old 6th-June-2010, 08:13
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Thanks spiritmc
Good to know its nothing to do with the mot

Thanks Datatek
If you do work out how to fool the SRS DCU and re-set the "Airbag Fault" message then I would love to know how you did it.
I am looking at a late 2000 rangie and got to thinkin that the dam warning lights will come on in a couple of months.


Could be 6 or 7 airbags in a car
Thats like 3 or 4 gran and thats + fitting


Thanks all

There are 4 airbags in post 2000 (99MY on) P38's. Driver, front passenger and side bags in both front seats. Pre 2000 just 2.
The usual reason for the airbag message is a bad electrical connection either to the side airbags, the connectors under the seats, or the airbag in the steering wheel caused by the flexible connector behind the wheel.
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Old 6th-June-2010, 10:52
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The airbag light will NOT come on simply because the airbags as past their date. The becm may be able to do many things but it can't read a date label.
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