P38 CV boot replacement - Help!

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osney67

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Hi all, it's me again.

I knackered the CV boot getting the hub off the hub carrier on my 4.6 HSE. New kit arrived in good time, but having cut the split one off, I can see no easy way of getting a new one on. Rave fails completely to even mention CV Joints or boots, so this is obviously something you're just supposed to know how to do by osmosis or something.

So, help please. Does anyone know how this is done? There's no way the small end of the boot's going over either the CV joint itself or the oil seal flange at the other end. Presumably one or other has to be removed first, but how?

:confused:
 
dunno about the official way but i always cut the new one along the seam, fit it round and glue it back up. dunno if it's right but it works, someone will be along with the correct way of stripping half the car down to replace a rubber boot:rolleyes: bloody stupid idea they are.
 
Just in case anyone else needs to know. The narrow end of the CV boot will fit over the oil seal flange. I warmed it up in the oven to soften the plastic a bit and then very carefully levered the edges over with a couple of blunt screwdrivers. There's a horrible chance of putting a hole in it and wasting twelve quid, but if you're careful it will stretch.
 
Thanks gegs. You can get CV boots that are designed to be glued together like that, but I couldn't find one for the P38 and other people on various fora were sceptical as to their longevity.
 
The CV joint is held on to the halfshaft by a spring ring clip that sits in a groove machined almost at the end of the halfshaft.It is biased to open slightly when free.
The inner part of the CV joint, called the Spider has a chamfer at both ends of the splined bore which acts as a lead in for the clip and forces it to squeeze in when the shaft is removed.
My Dad worked for Hardy Spicer for years and often did prop shaft UJ and CV joint repairs "On the Side" at weekends etc.
To remove the CV joint, securely hold the halfshaft with the CV in a straight line with it and give the "Bell" a sharp clout with a soft mallet away from the halfshaft, this will compress the clip and the CV will slide off. To reassemble, fit a Jubilee type clip over the spring clip to compress it..do not overtighten the Jubilee clip. Using the soft mallet on the screw end (Fit the nut on first, to protect the threads), tap the CV on until the spring clip has entered the Spider, remove the Jubilee clip and push/tap the joint home-it will find it's own position whn the halfshaft is fitted to the car and the hub tightened.
Be sure to check the condition and amount of grease in the joint before fitting the gaiter.
:behindsofa:
 
Irishrover said:
The CV joint is held on to the halfshaft by a spring ring clip that sits in a groove machined almost at the end of the halfshaft.It is biased to open slightly when free.
The inner part of the CV joint, called the Spider has a chamfer at both ends of the splined bore which acts as a lead in for the clip and forces it to squeeze in when the shaft is removed.
My Dad worked for Hardy Spicer for years and often did prop shaft UJ and CV joint repairs "On the Side" at weekends etc.
To remove the CV joint, securely hold the halfshaft with the CV in a straight line with it and give the "Bell" a sharp clout with a soft mallet away from the halfshaft, this will compress the clip and the CV will slide off. To reassemble, fit a Jubilee type clip over the spring clip to compress it..do not overtighten the Jubilee clip. Using the soft mallet on the screw end (Fit the nut on first, to protect the threads), tap the CV on until the spring clip has entered the Spider, remove the Jubilee clip and push/tap the joint home-it will find it's own position whn the halfshaft is fitted to the car and the hub tightened.
Be sure to check the condition and amount of grease in the joint before fitting the gaiter.
:behindsofa:
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thats a great tip about using a jubilee clip john.;);)
 
you can buy boot kits that come with what looks like a small traffic cone,the rubber gaiter is made to stretch over the cv joint using the cone as a stretching guide,so no need to take apart the cv joint,unless you want to that is.
 
gegs88 said:
dunno about the official way but i always cut the new one along the seam, fit it round and glue it back up. dunno if it's right but it works, someone will be along with the correct way of stripping half the car down to replace a rubber boot:rolleyes: bloody stupid idea they are.
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Hi
I'm new to Range rover world and already up the wall :mad: My 1998 "bargain" 2.5 diesel needed nothing but a wheel bearing. Rather than try it myself I took it to a 4x4 "specialist" who took 3 full days to eventually replace the hub as they said they couldnt shift the bearing with a 100 ton press.
In the proscess they have left me with an ABS light on and a Traction failure notice. I read that miight be caused by a sensor.

Theyve also almost completely destroyed the cv boot while working on rusted up nuts which I will have to replace as I dont trust the cowboys again.

2 questions ! Will cleaning and reseating cure the abs fault (it wanst there before the replacement hub) and what glue did you use for the CV joint!

Cheers
 
Irishrover said:
The CV joint is held on to the halfshaft by a spring ring clip that sits in a groove machined almost at the end of the halfshaft.It is biased to open slightly when free.
The inner part of the CV joint, called the Spider has a chamfer at both ends of the splined bore which acts as a lead in for the clip and forces it to squeeze in when the shaft is removed.
My Dad worked for Hardy Spicer for years and often did prop shaft UJ and CV joint repairs "On the Side" at weekends etc.
To remove the CV joint, securely hold the halfshaft with the CV in a straight line with it and give the "Bell" a sharp clout with a soft mallet away from the halfshaft, this will compress the clip and the CV will slide off. To reassemble, fit a Jubilee type clip over the spring clip to compress it..do not overtighten the Jubilee clip. Using the soft mallet on the screw end (Fit the nut on first, to protect the threads), tap the CV on until the spring clip has entered the Spider, remove the Jubilee clip and push/tap the joint home-it will find it's own position whn the halfshaft is fitted to the car and the hub tightened.
Be sure to check the condition and amount of grease in the joint before fitting the gaiter.
:behindsofa:
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following on from Irish Rovers exelent description for boot replacment i thought i'd add a few pictures to go with it..... just one thing i did a little differant was to use a cable tie instead for the jubuliee clip as i found the clip got in the way a little....

and yes....my vice is screwed to the garden decking....!!!!! don't have a garage yet and my workshop is at the end of the garden....!

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