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Old 1st-April-2005, 21:37
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Hi everyone sorry not been on lately here is the post especially for tiff,this only takes about 30 mins to do,the parts you will need is a 5 pin relay,locally sourced or landrover sell them part no is YWB10032L cost of £6.07 +vat you will need a resistor 2k ohm value locally sourced.
tools you will need spanner to take off battery terminal,philips screwdriver soldering iron an solder some insulating tape.
first of all disconect battery -ve terminal,unsrcew top of ecm cover,remove ecm and sit on top battery area on a cover obviously no sparks here.look into the loom of the ecm you are looking for a grey/blue trace wire this is the temp sender wire,cut this wire 3 inches back from ecm connector so you have enough room to join to the relay to terminal 30,before you join this wire the resistor needs to be bent in a horse shoe shape as the resistor goes between terminal 30 and terminal 87a,so to recap cut blue/grey wire and 1 end of resistor into crimping terminal and crimp, the other end of the resistor goes into the other cut side of the blue /grey wire and crimp with resistor connect to terminal 87a,terminal 85 goes to earth i normally cut into the collecting of black wires in the ecm box with plastic covered ends solder it to 1 of these here.the last connection is from the glow plug relay which is situated next to the ecm in the box,you need to join a wire to the red/white wire at the the glow plug relay this then joins onto terminal 86 of the relay,this is now all done wrap tape all round the relay and just place inside with the ecm and glow plug relay,hope my instructions are clear if not please email or post a message im going to look in my shed tomorow to see if i can find some resistors will let you know if i find any.
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Old 2nd-April-2005, 14:51
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OK then Tigapiglet. Thanks for the info. however, would you like to earn a few quid and sort this out for me. I know you are from Somerset and I live about 80 miles away but I need this sorted now cause its really p***ing me off. If you can do this please email me at rwhitworth@tiscali.co.uk Look forward to hearing from you soon. Richard.
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Old 2nd-April-2005, 22:14
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Many many thanks mate

Mine went back to the garage and it is now sorted, the changed a sensor or 2.
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Old 2nd-April-2005, 22:29
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Glad to hear its fixed tiff.
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Old 10th-April-2005, 11:48
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Hi everyone sorry not been on lately here is the post especially for tiff,this only takes about 30 mins to do,the parts you will need is a 5 pin relay,locally sourced or landrover sell them part no is YWB10032L cost of £6.07 +vat you will need a resistor 2k ohm value locally sourced.
tools you will need spanner to take off battery terminal,philips screwdriver soldering iron an solder some insulating tape.
first of all disconect battery -ve terminal,unsrcew top of ecm cover,remove ecm and sit on top battery area on a cover obviously no sparks here.look into the loom of the ecm you are looking for a grey/blue trace wire this is the temp sender wire,cut this wire 3 inches back from ecm connector so you have enough room to join to the relay to terminal 30,before you join this wire the resistor needs to be bent in a horse shoe shape as the resistor goes between terminal 30 and terminal 87a,so to recap cut blue/grey wire and 1 end of resistor into crimping terminal and crimp, the other end of the resistor goes into the other cut side of the blue /grey wire and crimp with resistor connect to terminal 87a,terminal 85 goes to earth i normally cut into the collecting of black wires in the ecm box with plastic covered ends solder it to 1 of these here.the last connection is from the glow plug relay which is situated next to the ecm in the box,you need to join a wire to the red/white wire at the the glow plug relay this then joins onto terminal 86 of the relay,this is now all done wrap tape all round the relay and just place inside with the ecm and glow plug relay,hope my instructions are clear if not please email or post a message im going to look in my shed tomorow to see if i can find some resistors will let you know if i find any.
Hi
I just joined as I am having problems when starting my 1996 Range Rover (2.5D BMW engine) when it's warm.
I saw your post which appears to be same problem but your detail is to technical for me
Any chance of simple terminology and maybe some diagrams
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Old 10th-April-2005, 11:49
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Hi
I just joined as I am having problems when starting my 1996 Range Rover (2.5D BMW engine) when it's warm.
I saw your post which appears to be same problem but your detail is to technical for me
Any chance of simple terminology and maybe some diagrams
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Old 11th-April-2005, 22:30
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Hi will try and come up with an easy way to explain and maybe a diagram if i can think of a way to do it,so much easier to do than explain to someone,its always harder i feel to explain electrickory!
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Old 12th-April-2005, 00:12
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Thanks for reply
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thanks again
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Old 20th-April-2005, 10:50
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my 96 DT is exact same. good as gold when cold, but when slightly warm its a pig. im also not mechanically minded but would love to fix myself. if a noddy guide could be written there is a pint in it for you!
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Old 20th-April-2005, 20:13
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Hi
I recieved your post
I will forward copy of stuff TIGAPIGLET (if it's O.K. with him) sends me as soon as I get it
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