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Old 18th-October-2006, 14:22
David Moffitt
 
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Default Re: Duramax Engine Failure - Engine Filled With Deisel due to fuel injector failure = SPUN BEARING


"none2u" <none2u@notrealatall.bye> wrote in message
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> If I was in this boat, with the loan and apparently needing a truck now...
> I,d replace the crank bearings, or rod bearings , the injector or
> injectors which failed. The oil pump. Hopefully everything through the oil
> pan. Whatever is necessary to get it to run right,for at least a month.
> Change the oil. Find a truck to buy. Detail the truck. Drive straight to
> the dealer and trade it in. I have to believe a 2001 gmc duramax trade in
> is more then 10 grand he owes. Don't know what the parts cost , but if I
> could get into another vehicle for a few grand out of pocket,in bearings ,
> injectors and an oil pump. and the trade in is above the loan. I,d be
> real happy.


%%%% Trade it in at a GMC dealer for another brand of truck.


> "Tom" <tjctransport@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:twlZg.524$18.404@newsfe10.lga...
>> and that is why we don't buy japanese scrap engines. and before you say
>> it's an american engine, the duraclacks engine used in the chebby and gmc
>> is made by Isuzu, a japanese company
>> <xblackoutx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161121195.591651.311300@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>>I have a 2001 GMC Duramax truck that had the injectors fail and fill
>>> the motor with deisel fuel to the point where it was blowing out of the
>>> fill tube. The truck only has 80,000 miles on it. There is a GM service
>>> bulliten that was issued that says they have extended the warranty on
>>> the injectors to 200,000 miles and 10 years so the local dealer
>>> replaced them under warranty. I told them at that time I didn't think
>>> that running deisel fuel inside that motor had done it any good and
>>> that the whole motor was suspect in my opinion and was told that
>>> "deisel contains some oil so it won't damage anything". I got a whole
>>> 2144 miles before a bearing spun and now my motor is trashed and they
>>> are telling me that the area rep is denying my warranty coverage
>>> because the truck is out of the official 100,000 mile 5 year warranty
>>> by 9 months, even though the faulty injectors that caused the failure
>>> are warranteed for 200,000 miles or 10 years . My point is that the
>>> injector failure flooded the engine with solvent, basically, and washed
>>> all oil away from the contact areas which caused the failure and the
>>> mechanic who is working on it at the local dealership agrees with me
>>> completely. I'm looking at $15,600 to get it replaced. I was hoping for
>>> some expert opinions on the lubricating properties of deisel fuel as an
>>> oil substitute. I'm no expert but I suspect that deisel is not really
>>> acceptable as an engine lubricant, and I suspect that the oil pump
>>> would not pump it as the viscosity is so low. Any
>>> help/tips/advice/pointers towards anything printed that says DO NOT ADD
>>> DEISEL FUEL TO YOUR ENGINE, IT WILL DAMAGE IT would be greatly
>>> appreciated as the motor is torn apart as I type this and they are
>>> awaiting the new engine.
>>>
>>> P.S. I've been calling deisel mechanics all morning and I have gotten
>>> 100% confirmation that running your motor with deisel fuel in side of
>>> it washes the oil from the contact surfaces of the motor, no ifs ands
>>> or buts abou tit
>>>
>>> P.P.S. DURAMAX FUEL INJECTORS CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE UPDATE: Well, I just
>>> got off the phone with the GM Customer service people. They say that
>>> since the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty is expired by 9 months they will
>>> not warranty the motor even though it was RUINED by an injector failing
>>> and flooding the engine with deisel. The injectors are warranteed for
>>> 200,000 miles or 10 years because they are DEFECTIVE ( see
>>> http://www.thedieselpage.com/duramax...orwarranty.htm ) and are
>>> going bad on a regular basis according to the local dealers duramax
>>> mechanic. I talked to this mechanic at length who took the engine out
>>> and HE AGREES WITH ME 100%. The mechanic told me that he has seen a
>>> bunch of these injector failures and every time an engine gets filled
>>> with deisel the trusks start coming in with low oil pressure readings
>>> and "it's only a matter of time before they FAIL". He has told me that
>>>
>>> That's right folks, A GM TRAINED DURAMAX MECHANIC HAS TOLD ME THAT HE
>>> SEES THESE FAILURES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT HE HAS TOLD THE AREA GM
>>> REP THAT THE ENGINES ARE FAILING AS A RESULT OF THE INJECTOR PROBLEM
>>> AND THAT GM IS REFUSING TO WARRANTY THE FAILED ENGINES.
>>>
>>> Let me re-state the facts here: my truck is a 2001 GMC 3500 with 80,000
>>> miles on it that only made it 2,144 miles AFTER THE ENGINE WAS FLOODED
>>> WITH FUEL THAT WASHED AWAY THE LUBRICANT before FAILING as a result of
>>> OIL BEING WASHED AWAY FROM THE BEARINGS. GM is refusing to honor the
>>> warranty on grounds that in their opinion THE OIL PUMP FAILED AT 80,000
>>> MILES which is unrelated to the flooding problem.
>>>
>>> If they are right, THAT'S EVEN WORSE NEWS FOR DURAMAX OWNERS. YOUR OIL
>>> PUMP COULD FAIL AT RANDOM AT 80,000 MILES AND GM WILL NOT STAND BEHIND
>>> IT.
>>>
>>> I suspect that eventually there will be a class action lawsuit that
>>> will force them to pay up on these failures but right now I'm SCREWED.
>>> I have a wife and 2 kids and make my living with the truck and now I'm
>>> looking at $15,600 for a replacement engine from GM that I'll have to
>>> throw on high interest credit cards if I want to be able to provide for
>>> my family. They have me by the b@lls here. I still owe $10K on the
>>> truck and now I'm looking at buying it again, basically, and I'm sick
>>> inside over it.
>>>
>>> Any helpful hints on how to proceed or any other forums you could
>>> suggest to post to will be appreciated, as well as any help in
>>> spreading the word. My only hope at this point is to somehow generate
>>> enough publicity that they agree to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help/time.
>>>

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