Is 2h30 of Time & Labour justified for adjusting the timing on my Freelander 2.0L?

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retapnairb

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So, as posted in a spearate string in this forum, the problem of intermiitent engine warning light plus power loss has been resolved on my 10 year old 200000+ kms Freelander 2.0L.

The problem arose after my local garage (not a Land River specialist), removed/re-installed the fuel pump in order to swap out the #4 glow-plug (as well as the others). He had also changed the distribution belt in an earlier visit (becuqse my Land Rover garage omitted to change it during the revisions up to and including 180000 kms!).

Since my local generalist garage couldn't resolve the problem, I took it to Land Rover in Montpellier.

Appointment at 14h30 to do the diagnostics. I asked the technician how long it would take. He replied, "1hr, perhaps 1h30. Best to leave it with us for the afternoon". Which, like an idiot, I did. Three hours later I went to pick up the car. Problem solved. Timing was out of synch, so the garage corrected that. Warning light remains off. No power-loss and a much softer sounding engine.

But does that justify 2h30 of Time & Labor?

Details of the intervention :
- check error code
- reset error code
- check distribution timing
- dynamically adjust distribution timing

I think a good Land Rover garage could do that for 1hr of T&L max.

:mad: Can someone let me know if it can really take 2h30 for a competent Freelander technician to adjust the timing?

Thanks for taking time to read this.

Brian
 
Hi Brian

Interested in this because I'm having 'fun' with my 2:0ltr. I had a full dianostic check done on mine by an ex dealer Landrover technician. The full system check didn't take him half an hour ( he does know what he's doing though) and that was with me sat in there with him asking probably silly questions.

Interested to know exactly what you mean by 'distribution' timing' (pump)? and how they 'dynamically' adjusted the same.

The timing has been lost on my inj pump (gear moved on the pump shaft) when the cam belt snapped and just about shattered the head.

Stefan
 
look at it from a different angle. Is the money you paid worth it, now you have your freelander back on the road with no problems, and all the grief you were suffering with it has now gone ?

probably not too far out, by the time they've got it in the workshop and hooked up, then run the diagnostic, then they've got to adjust the timing, get it all back together then test run / drive and re-diagnostic.

not sticking up for them as I don't know the labour charges, just looking at it a different way.
 
In answer to StefanA's question ... I'm not a techie, but I read that the injection pump contains a solenoid controlled by the motor control unit which synchronizes the pump to inject fuel at the right time. I was under the impression that the timing could be re-adjusted electronically, but it would seem that there is some mechanical adjustment to be done too (I'm assuming my local garagist did not perfectly remount the pump after removing it to change the glow-plug. As for "Dynamique", I don't know what that means, but that is what is written on the bill.

The car is working a treat now, but I regret not having challenged the Land-Rover technician at the time.

Thanks all for the feedback.:)
Brian
 
The time seems reasonable to me. They should have gone through the procedure to check and adjust the timing belt then check and adjust the injection pump belt and finally checked the dynamic timing which is a more accurate way to check the injection timing and the operation of the pump and is done using test equipment which has an electronic sensor which clamps to the injector pipe.
There would be no point in checking the dynamic timing without first ensuring that both belts are OK and correctly tensioned.
 
From the sounds of it you paid for the work done and are now happy with the vehicles performance??

Can't see the problem here, if you had an issue you should have stated this at the point of sale.......

Sorry for being blunt but you took the car in to have a specific fault rectified, they have done this. If they had done a load of other work that you hadn't asked for then your gripe would be justified.
 
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