5th Gear 4x4 review

Much as I hate to critisize the lovely Vicki-Butler Henderson I must
say that this weeks feature on the best family 4x4 for £20K was total
rubbish.

Initially the programme looked like interesting viewing the contenders
were introduced as follows.

Honda CRV SE Sport
Hyundai Santa Fe CDX 3(V6)
Jeep Cherokee 2.4
Kia Sorento (Diesel)
Land Rover Freelander
Mitsubishi Outlander
Nissan (X-Trail) 2.5 Sport
Subaru Forester 2L X spec
Suzuki Grand Vitara XL7
Toyota RAV4 XT3

Seven of the 10 cars were knocked out of the running on a quick points
system very little (5sec) was seen of each of these cars.

Hyundai, Nissan and Toyota went into round two
Vicki tested these on the road while Tiff chucked them round a race
circuit.

Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
race circuit?

Finally the Nissan and the Toyota progressed to the offroad course
where the Nissan won through seemingly because Vicky could get it up
the muddy hill where the plonker couldn't get the Toyota. (Looked more
to do with approach speed to me)

So the Nissan X-Trail wins the best Family 4x4 for 2K. Arguably not an
unreasonable outcome but the getting there was totally unenlightening.

Can't any car be tested on telly without being hammered around a
circuit?

moog

On 13 May 2004 00:15:40 -0700, [email protected] (moog) wrote:


->Can't any car be tested on telly without being hammered around a
->circuit?

I think you getting confused, 5th Gear is a entertainment programme that
involves cars nothing more.

Having met several of the presenters you would be amazed how little they know.

--
Geoff
www.anoraks.uk.net

> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
> race circuit?

Motoring journalists clueless prats - shock.

-- Steve

In news:[email protected],
Steve Hunt <[email protected]> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
>> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
>> race circuit?
>
> Motoring journalists clueless prats - shock.
>


"journalists clueless prats - shock." ...

would've been all that was required .. ;o)



--
Steve Parry

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

K100RS SE
F650
(not forgetting the SK90PY)

I thought exactly the same as I watched it

I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much more
to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than taking
them up a single hill!!!!





"moog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Much as I hate to critisize the lovely Vicki-Butler Henderson I must
> say that this weeks feature on the best family 4x4 for £20K was total
> rubbish.
>
> Initially the programme looked like interesting viewing the contenders
> were introduced as follows.
>
> Honda CRV SE Sport
> Hyundai Santa Fe CDX 3(V6)
> Jeep Cherokee 2.4
> Kia Sorento (Diesel)
> Land Rover Freelander
> Mitsubishi Outlander
> Nissan (X-Trail) 2.5 Sport
> Subaru Forester 2L X spec
> Suzuki Grand Vitara XL7
> Toyota RAV4 XT3
>
> Seven of the 10 cars were knocked out of the running on a quick points
> system very little (5sec) was seen of each of these cars.
>
> Hyundai, Nissan and Toyota went into round two
> Vicki tested these on the road while Tiff chucked them round a race
> circuit.
>
> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
> race circuit?
>
> Finally the Nissan and the Toyota progressed to the offroad course
> where the Nissan won through seemingly because Vicky could get it up
> the muddy hill where the plonker couldn't get the Toyota. (Looked more
> to do with approach speed to me)
>
> So the Nissan X-Trail wins the best Family 4x4 for 2K. Arguably not an
> unreasonable outcome but the getting there was totally unenlightening.
>
> Can't any car be tested on telly without being hammered around a
> circuit?
>
> moog

On 13 May 2004 00:15:40 -0700, [email protected] (moog) wrote:


->Can't any car be tested on telly without being hammered around a
->circuit?

I think you getting confused, 5th Gear is a entertainment programme that
involves cars nothing more.

Having met several of the presenters you would be amazed how little they know.

--
Geoff
www.anoraks.uk.net

> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
> race circuit?

Motoring journalists clueless prats - shock.

-- Steve

In news:[email protected],
Steve Hunt <[email protected]> fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
>> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
>> race circuit?
>
> Motoring journalists clueless prats - shock.
>


"journalists clueless prats - shock." ...

would've been all that was required .. ;o)



--
Steve Parry

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

K100RS SE
F650
(not forgetting the SK90PY)

I thought exactly the same as I watched it

I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much more
to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than taking
them up a single hill!!!!





"moog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Much as I hate to critisize the lovely Vicki-Butler Henderson I must
> say that this weeks feature on the best family 4x4 for £20K was total
> rubbish.
>
> Initially the programme looked like interesting viewing the contenders
> were introduced as follows.
>
> Honda CRV SE Sport
> Hyundai Santa Fe CDX 3(V6)
> Jeep Cherokee 2.4
> Kia Sorento (Diesel)
> Land Rover Freelander
> Mitsubishi Outlander
> Nissan (X-Trail) 2.5 Sport
> Subaru Forester 2L X spec
> Suzuki Grand Vitara XL7
> Toyota RAV4 XT3
>
> Seven of the 10 cars were knocked out of the running on a quick points
> system very little (5sec) was seen of each of these cars.
>
> Hyundai, Nissan and Toyota went into round two
> Vicki tested these on the road while Tiff chucked them round a race
> circuit.
>
> Now how many people buy a 4x4 to drive them like a looney around a
> race circuit?
>
> Finally the Nissan and the Toyota progressed to the offroad course
> where the Nissan won through seemingly because Vicky could get it up
> the muddy hill where the plonker couldn't get the Toyota. (Looked more
> to do with approach speed to me)
>
> So the Nissan X-Trail wins the best Family 4x4 for 2K. Arguably not an
> unreasonable outcome but the getting there was totally unenlightening.
>
> Can't any car be tested on telly without being hammered around a
> circuit?
>
> moog

"aaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I thought exactly the same as I watched it
>
> I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much more
> to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than taking
> them up a single hill!!!!


>Would any of you just happen to drive
that well known self destructing car
a Landrover Freelander, if so
Then try an x-trail before you knock it

rjc wrote:


>
>>Would any of you just happen to drive
> that well known self destructing car
> a Landrover Freelander, if so
> Then try an x-trail before you knock it

I was stuck behind one on a fairly mild offroading day. The damn thing got
itself bogged down on dry land and would wheel spin on an even vaguely
loose surface.

I quite like it as a road car, but as an offroader I'll stick with my Disco.

P.

A bit touchy, knocking what?

I certainly wasn't knocking the Xtrial, I dont know anything about 4x4 so I
wouldn't be able to.

The comment was that I hope there was more to the testing that taking it up
a single hill (as was portrayed in the program) ??????????

must have missed something

"rjc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "aaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I thought exactly the same as I watched it
> >
> > I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much
more
> > to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than
taking
> > them up a single hill!!!!
>
>
> >Would any of you just happen to drive
> that well known self destructing car
> a Landrover Freelander, if so
> Then try an x-trail before you knock it

"aaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I thought exactly the same as I watched it
>
> I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much more
> to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than taking
> them up a single hill!!!!


>Would any of you just happen to drive
that well known self destructing car
a Landrover Freelander, if so
Then try an x-trail before you knock it

rjc wrote:


>
>>Would any of you just happen to drive
> that well known self destructing car
> a Landrover Freelander, if so
> Then try an x-trail before you knock it

I was stuck behind one on a fairly mild offroading day. The damn thing got
itself bogged down on dry land and would wheel spin on an even vaguely
loose surface.

I quite like it as a road car, but as an offroader I'll stick with my Disco.

P.

A bit touchy, knocking what?

I certainly wasn't knocking the Xtrial, I dont know anything about 4x4 so I
wouldn't be able to.

The comment was that I hope there was more to the testing that taking it up
a single hill (as was portrayed in the program) ??????????

must have missed something

"rjc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "aaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I thought exactly the same as I watched it
> >
> > I hoped that the bits we were shown were highlights and there was much
more
> > to the testing that we didn't see, I hope the 4WD test was more than
taking
> > them up a single hill!!!!
>
>
> >Would any of you just happen to drive
> that well known self destructing car
> a Landrover Freelander, if so
> Then try an x-trail before you knock it